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Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management

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KM: Springs<br />

DW: Springs.<br />

KM: ‘Ae, oh.<br />

DW: Almost to the springs. Gradually, gradually we extended the road that way, and the road<br />

we had at Kole, into the gate, into the fence. We connected the Kole Road into the Hale<br />

Pöhaku.<br />

KM: You did connect it.<br />

DW: We headed towards Kahinahina past through Päpalekökï.<br />

KM: See, that’s all the way out to here. Here’s Päpalekökï.<br />

DW: Hmm, Päpalekökï yeah, that’s this one [pointing to location on map]. … [thinking]<br />

Kaupakuhale.<br />

KM: Oh, Kaupakuhale. Yes, yes.<br />

DW: Yes, Kaupakuhale.<br />

KM: Oh gosh, okay.<br />

DW: This was a rough road that we barely made it. We had a Portuguese guy, Frank Pavao.<br />

LW: [chuckling]<br />

DW: He’s a treasure [chuckling] but, we had to hire a small bulldozer, the Chow brothers, the<br />

Chow brothers had a ranch…<br />

KM: Cho<br />

LW: Chow, I think Chow.<br />

KM: Okay.<br />

DW: They had a ranch… [thinking]<br />

KM: Kuka‘iau side<br />

DW: Yes, Kuka‘iau.<br />

KM: Okay.<br />

DW: [thinking] Anyhow, he (Chow) had the bulldozer and he built part <strong>of</strong> the way and then put<br />

an ahu, you know, put stones together. There were many arguments about that, and all<br />

<strong>of</strong> a sudden [chuckles], we left him alone and it was very cheap construction. I forget how<br />

much a mile, we built this road. They are hunter trails, because when you control the<br />

sheep, you had to get the hunter pressure, because these pockets <strong>of</strong> sheep would just<br />

chew up the mountain.<br />

KM: What were you protecting There were things like…<br />

DW: What<br />

Conservation efforts on <strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong> undertaken to stop decline <strong>of</strong> forest due to destruction by sheep:<br />

KM: What were you protecting from the sheep What kind <strong>of</strong> plants<br />

DW: The whole mämane forest, the tree line was quite obviously…the tree line was<br />

decreasing rapidly. From the fence in these areas when the fence where… The original<br />

fence was zig- zag like this you know [pointing to fence line on map]<br />

KM: Uh-hmm.<br />

DW: And this is the boundary, Hawaiian Homes and State Land.<br />

<strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong>– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina”<br />

Kumu Pono Associates LLC<br />

A Collection <strong>of</strong> <strong>Oral</strong> <strong>History</strong> Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:322

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