Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management
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View up to Houpo o Käne (Hopukani) Spring and present-day pipeline down towards Waihü (Photo No. KPA-N1663) ‘Ua‘u were found nesting in the Pu‘u Kole vicinity: DW: Yes. They were at the tree line above Pu‘u Kole. (The birds were nesting at the tree line; a few scattered mämane, pükiawe, and ‘öhelo mostly.) KM: At 9,000-ish about or around 9,000 foot elevation or something DW: Yes. KM: Yes. DW: That tree line where the pükiawe trees and ‘öhelo, stragglers, the limit of the mämane. KM: ‘Ae. Was this the first time that you folks had seen the ‘ua‘u there DW: Yes. You know when… An interesting thing with the adze workers cave. KM: Yes, yes. Discusses the Keanakäko‘i Adze Quarry region: DW: Keanakäko‘i. When you dig around the edge of the cave where the floor is you find plenty feathers. KM: Oh. DW: And bones too, ‘ua‘u. The Hawaiians were apparently… (busy making adzes and weren’t hunting ‘ua‘u to take as food elsewhere.) LW: Ate ‘em. KM: ‘Ae, yes. DW: Ate the ‘ua‘u. Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:318
KM: DW: KM: DW: KM: DW: KM: DW: KM: DW: KM: DW: KM: DW: KM: DW: KM: DW: KM: DW: KM: Yes, yes. And elsewhere, when you walk in the mountain, tiny little shelter caves and you find the feathers and the bones. Yes, interesting. Same way at Hualälai. Ahh. You know there’s interesting, in the Boundary Commission proceedings and particularly in these lands…proceedings, that began in 1866 and then through the 1880s, the native witnesses at that time were describing coming on to the mountain lands to hunt ‘ua‘u… Uh-hmm. To hunt nënë. They would gather pili or sandalwoods like that also, but ‘ua‘u and nënë were a big thing for them on the mountain lands. And they evidently…you know when you were walking on the flats you’d mentioned shelters that people would shelter in on the mountain Yes. Did you ever notice areas out on the field sometimes, that may have looked like people had modified the stone pukas, so that the ‘ua‘u would nest and that they could… Yes, particularly at Hualälai. And the thing at Hualälai that was interesting, we found not very many bones, but plenty feathers. And the feathers apparently trapped in the recesses of the cave and the gravel, the cinder floor you know. You dig down and find plenty feathers, but not many bones. Oh. And Mauna Kea you found plenty bones. Yes. Skulls and breast bones. And I think possibly that on the upper Mauna Kea, the adze makers ate ‘ua‘u, as food, and whereas the Hualälai gang, they are not adze makers. I think they harvested the ua‘u to carry them to the lower elevations, and why pack the feathers Yes. It’s interesting because by and by, Ulalia should share with papa, Tütü Kihe’s writings. This old man Kihe who lived at Pu‘u Anahulu and he died in 1929. He was a prolific native writer of the history of these lands. He describes a couple of places on Hualälai, ‘Ua‘upo‘o‘ole, and there are a couple of other places where the ‘ua‘u hunters would actually go and they would catch on the mountain. But, just what you say, they would bring down to the makai lands. Yes. Interesting. So, you had an opportunity in this period, when you were walking all over this land. You folks were still using the water out of Hopukani or Waihükäne like that Oh yeah, till today, the pipeline remains there. The army increased the pipes. During the war you know, they had a big army camp. Yes. And they had a problem with water, and increased the wooden tanks. Then later on, the army built a half a million gallon field tank. The water flow from that Hopukani like that or Kawaihü, is not enough to fill that tank is it Or is it Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:319
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Yes, yes.<br />
And elsewhere, when you walk in the mountain, tiny little shelter caves and you find the<br />
feathers and the bones.<br />
Yes, interesting.<br />
Same way at Hualälai.<br />
Ahh. You know there’s interesting, in the Boundary Commission proceedings and<br />
particularly in these lands…proceedings, that began in 1866 and then through the 1880s,<br />
the native witnesses at that time were describing coming on to the mountain lands to<br />
hunt ‘ua‘u…<br />
Uh-hmm.<br />
To hunt nënë. They would gather pili or sandalwoods like that also, but ‘ua‘u and nënë<br />
were a big thing for them on the mountain lands. And they evidently…you know when<br />
you were walking on the flats you’d mentioned shelters that people would shelter in on<br />
the mountain<br />
Yes.<br />
Did you ever notice areas out on the field sometimes, that may have looked like people<br />
had modified the stone pukas, so that the ‘ua‘u would nest and that they could…<br />
Yes, particularly at Hualälai. And the thing at Hualälai that was interesting, we found not<br />
very many bones, but plenty feathers. And the feathers apparently trapped in the<br />
recesses <strong>of</strong> the cave and the gravel, the cinder floor you know. You dig down and find<br />
plenty feathers, but not many bones.<br />
Oh.<br />
And <strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong> you found plenty bones.<br />
Yes.<br />
Skulls and breast bones. And I think possibly that on the upper <strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong>, the adze<br />
makers ate ‘ua‘u, as food, and whereas the Hualälai gang, they are not adze makers. I<br />
think they harvested the ua‘u to carry them to the lower elevations, and why pack the<br />
feathers<br />
Yes. It’s interesting because by and by, Ulalia should share with papa, Tütü Kihe’s<br />
writings. This old man Kihe who lived at Pu‘u Anahulu and he died in 1929. He was a<br />
prolific native writer <strong>of</strong> the history <strong>of</strong> these lands. He describes a couple <strong>of</strong> places on<br />
Hualälai, ‘Ua‘upo‘o‘ole, and there are a couple <strong>of</strong> other places where the ‘ua‘u hunters<br />
would actually go and they would catch on the mountain. But, just what you say, they<br />
would bring down to the makai lands.<br />
Yes.<br />
Interesting. So, you had an opportunity in this period, when you were walking all over this<br />
land. You folks were still using the water out <strong>of</strong> Hopukani or Waihükäne like that<br />
Oh yeah, till today, the pipeline remains there. The army increased the pipes. During the<br />
war you know, they had a big army camp.<br />
Yes.<br />
And they had a problem with water, and increased the wooden tanks. Then later on, the<br />
army built a half a million gallon field tank.<br />
The water flow from that Hopukani like that or Kawaihü, is not enough to fill that tank is<br />
it Or is it<br />
<strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong>– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina”<br />
Kumu Pono Associates LLC<br />
A Collection <strong>of</strong> <strong>Oral</strong> <strong>History</strong> Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:319