Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management
Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management
EK: HK: KM: EK: HK: KM: HK: EK: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: too much money!” Sam Parker wanted the cash, he wants to borrow money. Alfred said, “Well, if I put the water up there, then maybe, probably, you can get the money you asking for.” They made a bet almost, the two guys bet. Parker thought that it would be impossible to get water up there, but A.W… A.W. took the water up. He took water out of Kohala mountain Uh-hmm. Yes. What he did was, you see A.W. was quite a notable man of great authority in the Territory of Hawai‘i at that time. He knew all of the Territorial Legislators. Immediately he looked, went up to Kohala mountain, the very top, we call the high pressure water line. The very top where the water stream runs and hardly goes dry. At any time of year, the water always trickles. So, he got the water rights from the Territory. He was a lawyer, he knew what he was doing. He established the water rights and from there on, from that point he piped the water up to Waiki‘i by gravity flow. Where did the pipe run from and down across Up the Kohala mountain, the watershed area. The highest point of the water source, Parker Ranch has the water rights. Across where, where did it cross Right in town here, right through. Through town Did it basically follow the old road that runs out Yes, this one right here. And then they piped, made pressure and it was all gravity, no more electricity All gravity, this is the one. There’s no such thing as water pump, they never thought about it. It was a gravity flow up to Pä ‘A‘ali‘i which is about three thousand some odd feet elevation. Yes. And he told Sam Parker, “I’m going to get water up there.” And he almost told…he mentioned how many gallons per minute he’s going to have when the water went reach there. Sam Parker says, “Well, I don’t think you can ever make it. You going to spend the money foolishly and whatnot.” He did it and when the water was finally…they completed the job. The water was more than what he expected. Where did the water come out at Waiki‘i Pä ‘A‘ali‘i. Where did the water come out… In fact today, this is the old, the corn crib right now, still yet. The school house was right in here. Where did the water come out at Waiki‘i In Waiki‘i or more mauka No. Below, some where’s around here. This is Pu‘u Kahekili, Small He‘ewai. Small He‘ewai [looking at map]. Pu‘u Kahekili, that’s the pu‘u right in the middle. Yes, okay. [thinking] At first, it was Pä ‘A‘ali‘i. Oh, here’s the pipeline right here, it says pipeline. [on the map] Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:238
HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: EK: HK: EK: EK: HK: EK: HK: EK: HK: KM: EK: KM: EK: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: KM: HK: Yes. Yes. And you were saying that they made a pipe actually, that even came out into the Ke‘eke‘e area later right Yes. It’s somewhere around here, at Pä ‘A‘ali‘i, and then later, they went out to Small He‘ewai, you can see the pipe on the map. Okay. By Pä ‘A‘ali‘i first Yes. What happened…they built a concrete cistern, water pond, concrete. Yes. It was an open pond or was it Open. Okay. It’s all lined with concrete and the gravity flow would go in there. And then he built an old Fairbanks diesel engine, one piston engine, diesel engine. Pump the water up, further up. Up to Humu‘ula No. Was up to Waiki‘i station. Oh yeah, Small Waiki‘i is down below. Is that where Ishizu was Ishizu was up Humu‘ula, and this is Waiki‘i. Herbert, had the pump house Oh, yes. The water reached Herbert’s house, from there we pump it up. Then you pump up to Waiki‘i. Yes, we pumped it up to Pä Kila and Number 8, and then on to Pu‘u Anuanu which is about seven thousand foot elevation. That’s the highest point we got, that the pump can go. Herbert Ishizu Uh-hmm. He was living out at Waiki‘i He lived in Waimea, but he goes up everyday. At one time Herbert Ishizu lived there at Pä ‘A‘ali‘i (Old ‘A‘ali‘i) for a short while. During the war years I used to go over there pump water. Black out days you know, you got to stay over night. Yes, yes. And then after a while they gave me a car with the head light, [gestures] blackout headlight with a little opening. Just a little Just a little opening. You only can see just ahead of you. You got to know your roads. And it was the old road or Pasture road. The old pasture road. Past Holoholokü like that out, go up to the mountain side. Yes. Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:239
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Yes.<br />
Yes. And you were saying that they made a pipe actually, that even came out into the<br />
Ke‘eke‘e area later right<br />
Yes. It’s somewhere around here, at Pä ‘A‘ali‘i, and then later, they went out to Small<br />
He‘ewai, you can see the pipe on the map.<br />
Okay. By Pä ‘A‘ali‘i first<br />
Yes. What happened…they built a concrete cistern, water pond, concrete.<br />
Yes. It was an open pond or was it<br />
Open.<br />
Okay.<br />
It’s all lined with concrete and the gravity flow would go in there. And then he built an old<br />
Fairbanks diesel engine, one piston engine, diesel engine. Pump the water up, further up.<br />
Up to Humu‘ula<br />
No. Was up to Waiki‘i station.<br />
Oh yeah, Small Waiki‘i is down below.<br />
Is that where Ishizu was<br />
Ishizu was up Humu‘ula, and this is Waiki‘i.<br />
Herbert, had the pump house<br />
Oh, yes. The water reached Herbert’s house, from there we pump it up.<br />
Then you pump up to Waiki‘i.<br />
Yes, we pumped it up to Pä Kila and Number 8, and then on to Pu‘u Anuanu which is<br />
about seven thousand foot elevation. That’s the highest point we got, that the pump can<br />
go.<br />
Herbert Ishizu<br />
Uh-hmm.<br />
He was living out at Waiki‘i<br />
He lived in Waimea, but he goes up everyday.<br />
At one time Herbert Ishizu lived there at Pä ‘A‘ali‘i (Old ‘A‘ali‘i) for a short while. During<br />
the war years I used to go over there pump water. Black out days you know, you got to<br />
stay over night.<br />
Yes, yes.<br />
And then after a while they gave me a car with the head light, [gestures] blackout<br />
headlight with a little opening.<br />
Just a little<br />
Just a little opening. You only can see just ahead <strong>of</strong> you. You got to know your roads.<br />
And it was the old road or<br />
Pasture road.<br />
The old pasture road. Past Holoholokü like that out, go up to the mountain side.<br />
Yes.<br />
<strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong>– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina”<br />
Kumu Pono Associates LLC<br />
A Collection <strong>of</strong> <strong>Oral</strong> <strong>History</strong> Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:239