Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management
Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management
RG: KM: RG: KM: RG: KM: RG: KM: RG: KM: RG: KM: RG: KM: RG: KM: RG: KM: RG: KM: RG: KM: RG: KM: RG: KM: PG: KM: That’s right. That didn’t go through very well. That’s right. I think that the story that I got was they had to bring water from the Kohala mountain and they had the flume coming down in here. ‘Ae. They were also using pumped brackish water and the water got too salty so that’s why they gave up. This, is the flume that Hind had built. That’s the flume line here, here’s your stone wall again, that was the makai boundary Yes. The flume cut through there and it came up into the Kohala, Keanu‘i‘omanö, the stream out that side. Yes. What you’re saying is what we heard too, is that it got too salty, and because they… Not enough water from here. Not enough flow, that’s right. In fact I understand, when they finished the flume in about 1906 or something, there was a period of drought. They got the flume finished and there was no water almost, to run down. If somebody went and checked all this thing out, you might find some remains of the flume. Oh, yes. I remember during my time, I’ve seen the remains. Sections where you could tell the trench or something like that Yes. May I ask you, just down in here. There’s a proposal now, this parcel here which is really Waiköloa mauka of the Puakö area here. Yes. Right on…that’s the boundary. Do you remember the old Government Road that followed the boundary out here, at Lähuipua‘a Then it cuts down Did you run pipi out here at all No. [thinking] Puakö Road, the only one that I can remember is that from Kawaihae to Puakö, there was a road going... Yes, that’s right. From there on, no, I never went. That’s the old road marked here on the map. Yes, along the ocean. Near the ocean, that’s right. Did you folks use that road sometime Did the ranch put that in No, there was an earlier one, this was an earlier Government Road. Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:14
RG: KM: RG: KM: RG: PG: KM: RG: PG: RG: KM: RG: KM: RG: KM: RG: KM: RG: KM: RG: KM: RG: KM: RG: KM: RG: KM: RG: KM: RG: The only time we used it was if we went to Häpuna Beach swimming or something. We’d come to Kawaihae, park the car and then walk in. Oh yeah, back in the ‘30s like that Yes. I know by Mau‘umae like that, isn’t that right, Carter I think had… Yes. Uh-hmm. Had a property down there as well. That was… Queen Emma’s. Queen’s Hospital land. That’s right. And Hartwell wanted a beach home so they went to Queen’s Hospital people. Talked them into selling, and that’s how Hartwell got that. Mau‘umae. Mau‘umae. ‘Ae. May I just ask you real quickly, in ‘Öuli and you know Mauna Kea Hotel sits basically, I think right about in here. The Mauna Kea Beach on Kauna‘oa Bay. Was Kauna‘oa Bay... Do you remember, you folks would travel across that place Yes. Did the ranch have any activities going on in ‘Öuli, up above No. Not until you got above the stone wall. That stone wall was really the boundary That’s right. Even in the later years, when you mentioned that they were bringing cattle down to Puakö like that No, they never. Okay, never had anything in ‘Öuli. In probably ‘54, ’55, somewhere around in there, they did have some cattle down at Puakö. Just in the Puakö area, this side no more. I don’t know if you recognize, this is John Hind Paddock, there’s a Grant here. A big corral area where the sugar mill also was going to be I don’t know, wasn’t there. What I remember was nothing but kiawe. Was all kiawe already Yes. Were you folks shipping out of Puakö also, or just keeping cattle down there No. Never shipped any cattle out of Puakö. In fact, there was no place where you could ship cattle out of Puakö. It’s all, too shallow out there. Kawaihae and the next one over was Kïholo, where Hind’s used to ship cattle. Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:15
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The only time we used it was if we went to Häpuna Beach swimming or something. We’d<br />
come to Kawaihae, park the car and then walk in.<br />
Oh yeah, back in the ‘30s like that<br />
Yes.<br />
I know by Mau‘umae like that, isn’t that right, Carter I think had…<br />
Yes.<br />
Uh-hmm.<br />
Had a property down there as well.<br />
That was…<br />
Queen Emma’s.<br />
Queen’s Hospital land.<br />
That’s right.<br />
And Hartwell wanted a beach home so they went to Queen’s Hospital people. Talked<br />
them into selling, and that’s how Hartwell got that.<br />
Mau‘umae.<br />
Mau‘umae.<br />
‘Ae. May I just ask you real quickly, in ‘Öuli and you know <strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong> Hotel sits basically,<br />
I think right about in here. The <strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong> Beach on Kauna‘oa Bay. Was Kauna‘oa<br />
Bay... Do you remember, you folks would travel across that place<br />
Yes.<br />
Did the ranch have any activities going on in ‘Öuli, up above<br />
No. Not until you got above the stone wall.<br />
That stone wall was really the boundary<br />
That’s right.<br />
Even in the later years, when you mentioned that they were bringing cattle down to<br />
Puakö like that<br />
No, they never.<br />
Okay, never had anything in ‘Öuli.<br />
In probably ‘54, ’55, somewhere around in there, they did have some cattle down at<br />
Puakö. Just in the Puakö area, this side no more.<br />
I don’t know if you recognize, this is John Hind Paddock, there’s a Grant here. A big<br />
corral area where the sugar mill also was going to be<br />
I don’t know, wasn’t there. What I remember was nothing but kiawe.<br />
Was all kiawe already<br />
Yes.<br />
Were you folks shipping out <strong>of</strong> Puakö also, or just keeping cattle down there<br />
No. Never shipped any cattle out <strong>of</strong> Puakö. In fact, there was no place where you could<br />
ship cattle out <strong>of</strong> Puakö. It’s all, too shallow out there. Kawaihae and the next one over<br />
was Kïholo, where Hind’s used to ship cattle.<br />
<strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong>– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina”<br />
Kumu Pono Associates LLC<br />
A Collection <strong>of</strong> <strong>Oral</strong> <strong>History</strong> Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:15