Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management
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KL: Yes, my uncle. KM: Yes. His Hawaiian name was Kahalelaumämane. KL: Something like that, uh-hmm. KM: Your family has a very interesting story and sort of ‘ohana to you, Larry Kimura KL: Yes. KM: Larry, in 1966... KL: Larry and Maka‘ai. KM: That’s right, Maka‘ai went and stayed with him. Well, he did an interview with your Uncle Ka‘aluea. KL: Yes. KM: And his papa was Lindsey, his mama was an Ka‘inapau. KL: Yes. Learned about Mauna Kea localities and trails to Mauna Kea from his father: KM: And he told a story about your family’s travels up to Mauna Kea. Did your papa talk to you about Mauna Kea at all KL: He showed me about the trails and where to go…. [thinking] Well, I was working already for Parker Ranch. I left Pu‘u Wa‘awa‘a, and I had to come home, Kona to Hu‘ehu‘e. I used to ask him, and he used to tell me where and where, you look for this marker, you look for that. KM: Yes. KL: And then when I went, I went with Willy Kaniho, up Humu‘ula, he was my foreman. KM: Oh. This was a little after World War II, or around that time KL: [thinking] After. KM: Yes. KL: When it was the war, everything went stop, pau. No more we taking pipi in the boat, because of the war, they were kind of afraid. KM: Yes. So when you went work for Parker though, was war time, I think, yeah KL: Yes. KM: And then pau war... So, when you would come home, you spoke to your father about… KL: Yes, he tell me what was what. KM: You know it’s interesting, I have a couple of maps here. Let me just pull out one for now. This is Register Map 2786 and it sort of shows a portion of the Parker Ranch lands. Here’s Kemole over here. KL: Yes. KM: Makahälau is down a little further. KL: That’s right. KM: Do you remember, did dad talk to you about the trails up this side (the Waimea side), go up the mountain KL: Yes. And when I went there he also showed which trail to come up, Makahälau. Go around, go up by, oh, I forget that name of the other place… [thinking] Holoholokü. Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:172
KM: KL: KM: KL: KM: KL: KM: KL: KM: KL: KM: KL: KM: KL: KM: KL: KM: KL: KM: KL: KM: KL: KM: KL: KM: KL: KM: KL: KM: KL: KM: KL: KM: ‘Ae. There’s a trail, actually pass Holoholokü comes up to Waiki‘i too, right Yes, get two, one go up Kemole side, and one go up Waiki‘i. ‘Ae. Those trails, I know. Yes. Nobody use, now I think, all ka‘a. I think so. Us guys, all kau lio before, twelve hours a day, fourteen hours. Wow! Yes, but every time I pass there, me, I aloha the ‘äina. I look around, I shake my head. Nui ke aloha! So hard yeah. Even when we were talking a couple of months ago, and you were talking. Even about you know like, Pu‘u Wa‘awa‘a like that, how changed. Yes. I think you said häpuku Yes. They push too much, häpuku, greedy! These new people go school and come back, they run the ranch. Us guys, we still working. The way they operate things, not like the olden days. Olden days, kind boss you had, mälia is mälia. That’s right. You would go easy, ho‘omaha ka ‘äina… Yes, no hainä! Hainä, that’s what you said. Häpuku! Uwë ka ‘äina, pau. You look at the ‘äina today. ‘Ae. Malo‘o, the pipi all wïwï. Yes, I look at that every time, I like cry. Different! It’s very hard. It’s just a different attitude. Yes. You know the land can only support so much. So much yeah, you got to take care the land. Even the pipi, they hainä. Yes. You know when you were working for Parker, did you spend any time out here at Waiki‘i at all Yes, we used to go out. Sometimes they needed help, station to station, we got to stay. I see. Every time we get two or three boys from Breaking Pen, or another three boys from cowboy’s string, and we go. Breaking Pen, was what area You can see by the police department. You know where the police Yes, in Waimea. In Waimea, right across you can see one big pen. Puhihale Pen Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:173
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KL: Yes, my uncle.<br />
KM: Yes. His Hawaiian name was Kahalelaumämane.<br />
KL: Something like that, uh-hmm.<br />
KM: Your family has a very interesting story and sort <strong>of</strong> ‘ohana to you, Larry Kimura<br />
KL: Yes.<br />
KM: Larry, in 1966...<br />
KL: Larry and Maka‘ai.<br />
KM: That’s right, Maka‘ai went and stayed with him. Well, he did an interview with your Uncle<br />
Ka‘aluea.<br />
KL: Yes.<br />
KM: And his papa was Lindsey, his mama was an Ka‘inapau.<br />
KL: Yes.<br />
Learned about <strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong> localities and trails to <strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong> from his father:<br />
KM: And he told a story about your family’s travels up to <strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong>. Did your papa talk to<br />
you about <strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong> at all<br />
KL: He showed me about the trails and where to go…. [thinking] Well, I was working already<br />
for Parker Ranch. I left Pu‘u Wa‘awa‘a, and I had to come home, Kona to Hu‘ehu‘e. I<br />
used to ask him, and he used to tell me where and where, you look for this marker, you<br />
look for that.<br />
KM: Yes.<br />
KL: And then when I went, I went with Willy Kaniho, up Humu‘ula, he was my foreman.<br />
KM: Oh. This was a little after World War II, or around that time<br />
KL: [thinking] After.<br />
KM: Yes.<br />
KL: When it was the war, everything went stop, pau. No more we taking pipi in the boat,<br />
because <strong>of</strong> the war, they were kind <strong>of</strong> afraid.<br />
KM: Yes. So when you went work for Parker though, was war time, I think, yeah<br />
KL: Yes.<br />
KM: And then pau war... So, when you would come home, you spoke to your father about…<br />
KL: Yes, he tell me what was what.<br />
KM: You know it’s interesting, I have a couple <strong>of</strong> maps here. Let me just pull out one for now.<br />
This is Register Map 2786 and it sort <strong>of</strong> shows a portion <strong>of</strong> the Parker Ranch lands.<br />
Here’s Kemole over here.<br />
KL: Yes.<br />
KM: Makahälau is down a little further.<br />
KL: That’s right.<br />
KM: Do you remember, did dad talk to you about the trails up this side (the Waimea side), go<br />
up the mountain<br />
KL: Yes. And when I went there he also showed which trail to come up, Makahälau. Go<br />
around, go up by, oh, I forget that name <strong>of</strong> the other place… [thinking] Holoholokü.<br />
<strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong>– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina”<br />
Kumu Pono Associates LLC<br />
A Collection <strong>of</strong> <strong>Oral</strong> <strong>History</strong> Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:172