Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management

RH: Yes, this is Number 2.
KM: Okay.
RH: And so you got your eight plots on top here, the narrow strip and you can see where the
next fire break is, and then that strip below it is the two hundred foot wide section.
ES: Which is that
RH: We came from here over, now we’re at this plot, right here, and we’re looking down this
right here.
ES: That’s what we’re looking at there
RH: Yes, that’s at nine hundred feet, it goes down a hundred feet, then you can see the next
fire break and then two hundred feet and another fire break. You can see how, the big
piece, the two hundred by nine hundred has been sprayed. That’s going to be the
forestry test area. Then you look at these, the eight plots, some are sprayed and some
aren’t sprayed… [inaudible] …we will stop spraying mauka. …where it has been sprayed,
we’ll burn, where it hasn’t been sprayed, we’ll spray, and then we’ll come back a year
later, any volunteers, we come and whack again. And of course, we’re going to have to
be careful because this is where the experiment is going to go on. Keep on going. All
those plots you see on Pu‘uloa, those have all been sprayed, the perimeter. Anything
that’s above and just spotty, that’s all sprayed already.
ES: You took care of that. Right on. Take care of that pu‘u for us will you.
RH: Isn’t that a beautiful thing.
ES: It’s got strong significance.
RH: Certainly a monument.
ES: Yes. I use it as a marker, as well as Pu‘ukole, back there. When I’m up on the mountain
sometimes walking in the fog, to get where I’m at.
RH: So this is the Number 2. What we’ll do is we drive down… [recorder off – back on]
Group: [driving down from Plot Number 2, to road, and drive to next plot]
KM: …About what is our mileage in from the main road
RH: About 6.9, so maybe 6.7.
KM: Okay.
RH: I think we’re okay based on this map, I think we’re right on. I don’t think this map…
KM: The Federal Highway’s one they did the GPS stuff too, so the coordinates are better.
US: Yes.
RH: Now that we’ve got, the plots are defined, we could do the four corners almost. Plot
them…
KM: …Uncle, I wanted to real quickly, one quick question. Do you have some mana‘o, what is
your thinking about the gorse If they can get rid of it, should they, or should they just
leave it go or what do you
TB: Well, I think the only way you can hold the gorse, is you got to use animals.
KM: Need to keep animals on the land also.
TB: I mentioned to Robby, that Hawaiian Homes wants me to take care of Pu‘u ‘Ö‘ö for them.
I wanted to get with Robby and run some sheep, to hold the thing down.
Group: [Ed Stevens joins us in car for last site visit.]
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