Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management
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He noted, that was what they always did, an elder kama‘äina would gather with the group and pule. (pers comm. June 13, 2002) Uncle Teddy’s attachment to Mauna Kea and the mountain lands was so great, that he often shared with Maly, his desire to be buried at Pu‘u Nänä (the Pu‘u Nanahu vicinity), when his time came. Uncle Teddy passed away July 18, 2002. Uncle Teddy Bell gave his verbal release of the interviews to Maly, on June 13, 2002. [leaving Kühiö Village, discussing changes in Parker Ranch operations] TB: …Looks like they going get rid of everybody [chuckling]. RH: I took it too. They offered everybody early retirement. I’ve been there eighteen years, Teddy. Not as long as you, but… TB: That’s good enough. RH: I feel I did my job. I’m going to…I’ve got my family’s place down in Ka‘ü. I’ll go down there and help out. We’ll see, it was an opportunity for me. Plenty guys took, you know. TB: Yes. How about Ramos, he going too. RH: Yes… Group: [further discussion, regarding employees and future operations] KM: …Uncle, you hänau what year TB: In ‘23. KM: Wonderful! You and Billy Paris, same year I believe, ‘23 TB: Yes, yes. KM: Mama, [Coco Hind] was ‘25 RH: Yes. So, you guys all the same generation. TB: Yes. KM: This ‘äina around here, has it changed from when you were young TB: Oh, yes. KM: Hmm. I brought a couple of interesting old pictures, I thought, maybe you could look at ‘um. You were little bit kama‘äina with one shot before. One, I think from by the old race track, this side, and one from, I’m not sure if it’s Pua‘äkala house or what, on the other side. Real interesting, you know. And you know Tita Spielman, Annabelle’s daughter TB: Yes. KM: When Eben Low died in ‘54, they took his ashes up the mountain TB: Yes. KM: Up on top and I brought a photograph of them. And Tita them were trying to figure out who were these people, so we thought, maybe, since you’re kama‘äina with some of those guys, you might know. Toshi Imoto is the only one I know. TB: Toshi. KM: And he stands out, because his hair [chuckles]. TB: Yes [chuckles]. Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:124
TB: When are you folks pau, Robby RH: That’s what they’re talking about right now. If, we’re trying to work out something where maybe all the lands with the gorse, we keep, and we continue on with the program. All the lands that are clean, then Hawaiian Homes takes that back and they can award it to whoever. TB: Yes. RH: And then, we continue working on that gorse, and then there was some talk about a land trade. Maybe they can trade land or something like that, it’s up to the Trustees, they’re dealing with the chairman. Teddy, right here, the old air-strip, was that during the war only TB: Yes. RH: That was a war time air-strip TB: When the war ended, it went over to the public, and too many planes were coming in. KM: So, this one opened up across the road, when TB: In the ‘60s. KM: After the one on the makai side of the road closed, ‘Upolu was the main one Or did they still come in here TB: ‘Upolu and this one here, same. KM: Oh, okay. TB: They just used ‘em for emergencies. Describes Parker Ranch efforts to control gorse in the 1940s: KM: Okay. You know, Robby was just talking about the gorse. When you were working ranch and maybe earlier, did you folks see gorse around TB: Yes. KM: You did When did you start working About what year, you think TB: In the ‘40s, I used to go out with Willie Kaniho and them. They used to use the knapsack. In one week, we could spray the whole thing. RH: In one week, it was just spotty here and there. TB: Even in the ‘70s it was alright, then after the ‘70s, the ‘80s, that’s when that darn gorse took over. KM: You saw it RH: When they hemo the sheep, when they took the sheep out TB: Now, the sheep went out in ’65. RH: Right, was Rally’s time. TB: Yes. In the ‘70s, the gorse was still spotted out KM: I understood though, you folks regularly, if you saw gorse, you were always picking it TB: Yes. KM: Pulling it yeah, or poison, spray, like that TB: Always spray. Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:125
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He noted, that was what they always did, an elder kama‘äina would gather with the group<br />
and pule. (pers comm. June 13, 2002)<br />
Uncle Teddy’s attachment to <strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong> and the mountain lands was so great, that he <strong>of</strong>ten shared<br />
with Maly, his desire to be buried at Pu‘u Nänä (the Pu‘u Nanahu vicinity), when his time came. Uncle<br />
Teddy passed away July 18, 2002.<br />
Uncle Teddy Bell gave his verbal release <strong>of</strong> the interviews to Maly, on June 13, 2002.<br />
[leaving Kühiö Village, discussing changes in Parker Ranch operations]<br />
TB: …Looks like they going get rid <strong>of</strong> everybody [chuckling].<br />
RH: I took it too. They <strong>of</strong>fered everybody early retirement. I’ve been there eighteen years,<br />
Teddy. Not as long as you, but…<br />
TB: That’s good enough.<br />
RH: I feel I did my job. I’m going to…I’ve got my family’s place down in Ka‘ü. I’ll go down there<br />
and help out. We’ll see, it was an opportunity for me. Plenty guys took, you know.<br />
TB: Yes. How about Ramos, he going too.<br />
RH: Yes…<br />
Group: [further discussion, regarding employees and future operations]<br />
KM: …Uncle, you hänau what year<br />
TB: In ‘23.<br />
KM: Wonderful! You and Billy Paris, same year I believe, ‘23<br />
TB: Yes, yes.<br />
KM: Mama, [Coco Hind] was ‘25<br />
RH: Yes. So, you guys all the same generation.<br />
TB: Yes.<br />
KM: This ‘äina around here, has it changed from when you were young<br />
TB: Oh, yes.<br />
KM: Hmm. I brought a couple <strong>of</strong> interesting old pictures, I thought, maybe you could look at<br />
‘um. You were little bit kama‘äina with one shot before. One, I think from by the old race<br />
track, this side, and one from, I’m not sure if it’s Pua‘äkala house or what, on the other<br />
side. Real interesting, you know. And you know Tita Spielman, Annabelle’s daughter<br />
TB: Yes.<br />
KM: When Eben Low died in ‘54, they took his ashes up the mountain<br />
TB: Yes.<br />
KM: Up on top and I brought a photograph <strong>of</strong> them. And Tita them were trying to figure out<br />
who were these people, so we thought, maybe, since you’re kama‘äina with some <strong>of</strong><br />
those guys, you might know. Toshi Imoto is the only one I know.<br />
TB: Toshi.<br />
KM: And he stands out, because his hair [chuckles].<br />
TB: Yes [chuckles].<br />
<strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong>– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina”<br />
Kumu Pono Associates LLC<br />
A Collection <strong>of</strong> <strong>Oral</strong> <strong>History</strong> Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:124