Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management
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KM: Just a little nub rising just above the hill there or the slope. RG: I see it with these glasses. PG: Then you look over here, are those the stables RG: What stables are you talking about PG: Pu‘ukalani. RG: Yes, but there’s no trees down at Puhihale. PG: Rally, this was taken a long, long time ago. RG: I’ve been around a long time [chuckling]. PG: The trees might have died. It was probably taken before you were born. RG: Then I don’t remember. This fence here, I don’t know, no can talk. KM: You’re right, though the fence… Oh, maybe this is the corral…look at that the fence has, you were right. The fence has wood posts all the way across. It’s sort of like an arena. PG: The race track KM: The race track. I wonder, you see you were right, I didn’t see it until I’m looking at it real closely here. Each post has the wood laying across it. RG: Here again, if this is a real old picture, this Puhihale corral did not have a little house here until later years. KM: Okay. RG: I don’t know, I can’t help you. KM: Okay. This is another one that I enlarged a little bit [Hawaiian Historical Society Photo No. 1019 2 ]. This is another one out of that same collection of photos at the Historic Society. Do you recognize any of this stuff PG: Is it a mill, no it’s a chute. KM: These buildings don’t jump out at you Wow, that’s amazing! I was just curious, some people that I asked, they were wondering if this was Pua‘äkala. Makai. RG: I don’t know Puakala that well, that was Shipman. This cannot be too old, I don’t think because to me, it looks like they got loading chutes here. KM: That’s correct, that’s what it looks like doesn’t it. RG: In the old days, they never had any loading chutes, and all these corrals. KM: Okay… Now, I know you know these guys, and I was thinking if you might. When you brought these photos out the last time, and let me then borrow them to scan them, we were pau recording already, and so I thought, if we could talk a little bit about these photos. This is your folks trip up to Mauna Kea RG: Yes. Describes first trip to summit of Mauna Kea: KM: About what year was this RG: Probably about ‘37 or ‘38. KM: Okay. 2 As a result of research conducted following this interview, it was learned that the photo was one of several taken by E.D. Preston in 1892, and is a portion of the original Haneberg Kalai‘eha Station (see Maly & Maly, 2005). Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:112

PG: Right, he was still working for the ranch. KM: Martin Martinson RG: Harry Koa. KM: Was Harry an old Waimea Hawaiian RG: No, he came from Kona, I think. He was working with some surveyor group, and then he came to Parker Ranch. PG: I’m sure this was about, 1937. KM: Okay. Then there’s the infamous Rally Greenwell, then James. And sitting, Frank Vierra, the Portuguese cowboy. RG: Yes, William Poai. Martin Martinson, that’s the son of this guy. KM: Okay. RG: And then Sam Liana and George Purdy. KM: Liana is a Waimea boy RG: Yes. KM: No more Liana family now, I don’t hear the name. PG: Kalani Schutte’s, second wife, Lu, she was related to Sapo, who was a Liana. Wasn’t she Sapo’s niece RG: I think so. PG: Kalani had a baby boy who might be twenty-five now. That’s the only Liana I think, that’s left. KM: Amazing! RG: There’s one Liana, that just left Parker Ranch I think, a truck driver. KM: What was the occasion of this little jaunt up to Mauna Kea RG: Martinson was Willie Kaniho’s father-in-law. KM: Which one RG: This one, the old man. And this was his son. This guys sister married Willie Kaniho. KM: Okay. RG: They’re from Ka‘ü, Kahuku. I guess Willie was making the grade with Mary at that time and wanted to do something for the old man. The old man had never been up the mountain, so Willie told him that he would take him up the mountain. The boy came along with him and we were working at Humu‘ula, shearing sheep, most of us. KM: The other guys, Koa, Liana, Purdy, and you and your brother RG: Yes. My brother was working at Kohala. So, Willie planned this trip on a Sunday, when we were not shearing at Humu‘ula (that day) , so that’s how we went up. Willie brought Martinson, the son, and Jimmy, my brother up. Met us up here and then we all went up the mountain. It was no special day, just holoholo. KM: You folks rode horse from Kalai‘eha up the old trail RG: Right to the top. KM: Right up to the top. Along the way, did anything stand out in your mind, or was it just the feat of getting up there Did you folks talk at all, about adze quarries or shelters Do you remember seeing anything Mauna Kea– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina” Kumu Pono Associates LLC A Collection of Oral History Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:113

PG: Right, he was still working for the ranch.<br />

KM: Martin Martinson<br />

RG: Harry Koa.<br />

KM: Was Harry an old Waimea Hawaiian<br />

RG: No, he came from Kona, I think. He was working with some surveyor group, and then he<br />

came to Parker Ranch.<br />

PG: I’m sure this was about, 1937.<br />

KM: Okay. Then there’s the infamous Rally Greenwell, then James. And sitting, Frank Vierra,<br />

the Portuguese cowboy.<br />

RG: Yes, William Poai. Martin Martinson, that’s the son <strong>of</strong> this guy.<br />

KM: Okay.<br />

RG: And then Sam Liana and George Purdy.<br />

KM: Liana is a Waimea boy<br />

RG: Yes.<br />

KM: No more Liana family now, I don’t hear the name.<br />

PG: Kalani Schutte’s, second wife, Lu, she was related to Sapo, who was a Liana. Wasn’t she<br />

Sapo’s niece<br />

RG: I think so.<br />

PG: Kalani had a baby boy who might be twenty-five now. That’s the only Liana I think, that’s<br />

left.<br />

KM: Amazing!<br />

RG: There’s one Liana, that just left Parker Ranch I think, a truck driver.<br />

KM: What was the occasion <strong>of</strong> this little jaunt up to <strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong><br />

RG: Martinson was Willie Kaniho’s father-in-law.<br />

KM: Which one<br />

RG: This one, the old man. And this was his son. This guys sister married Willie Kaniho.<br />

KM: Okay.<br />

RG: They’re from Ka‘ü, Kahuku. I guess Willie was making the grade with Mary at that time<br />

and wanted to do something for the old man. The old man had never been up the<br />

mountain, so Willie told him that he would take him up the mountain. The boy came along<br />

with him and we were working at Humu‘ula, shearing sheep, most <strong>of</strong> us.<br />

KM: The other guys, Koa, Liana, Purdy, and you and your brother<br />

RG: Yes. My brother was working at Kohala. So, Willie planned this trip on a Sunday, when<br />

we were not shearing at Humu‘ula (that day) , so that’s how we went up. Willie brought<br />

Martinson, the son, and Jimmy, my brother up. Met us up here and then we all went up<br />

the mountain. It was no special day, just holoholo.<br />

KM: You folks rode horse from Kalai‘eha up the old trail<br />

RG: Right to the top.<br />

KM: Right up to the top. Along the way, did anything stand out in your mind, or was it just the<br />

feat <strong>of</strong> getting up there Did you folks talk at all, about adze quarries or shelters Do you<br />

remember seeing anything<br />

<strong>Mauna</strong> <strong>Kea</strong>– “Ka Piko Kaulana o ka ‘Äina”<br />

Kumu Pono Associates LLC<br />

A Collection <strong>of</strong> <strong>Oral</strong> <strong>History</strong> Interviews (HiMK67-050606) A:113

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