Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management

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Okay. What about the ‘ai pa‘a Where were you folks and you said there was like a
group of a what…
About fifteen cowboys.
Where were you, out on the…
This was all over. One fella would stay back at the restaurant in Waimea. And when the
salt meat was cooked and everything and packaged up, then he would bring it out and
meet us at a certain point, where we would have lunch. It would vary, one day we’d be
here, the next day it would be several miles.
This is like Hänaipoe or Keanakolu.
Makahälau.
Makahälau like that
Yes.
What about the ‘ai pa‘a It was kind of a cute story though, you know, one guy. How was
it prepared
You know what ‘ai pa‘a is
RG:
KM: ‘Ae.
RG: One package of ‘ai pa‘a wrapped in ti leaves and the salt meat would be wrapped in ti
leaves and then put in paper bags.
KM: Yes. He would bring it out and everyone would gather together
RG: Everybody gathered, they put it all down on the ground and everybody come around eat.
We had pocket knives, cut a little salt meat. Cut a little ‘ai pa‘a and then go sit down and
talk story.
KM: Wow, that’s so great! What a life!
RG: In those days we work early, we work hard, and we come home late and everybody was
happy. They’d be showing off, how their horse could turn and do stuff. Today, these guys
have no more aloha for that.
KM: Yes, hard to understand. I’ve got a couple of photos with me that by and by if you’re
willing, if we have the time, I would like to look at these photos. There’s a house,
particularly a couple shots of ranch houses that I’m curious, if you can tell me where they
are out in the field. I also have your copy of your Mauna Kea pictures, I wanted to talk to
you a little bit about that trip. Okay
RG: Sure.
KM: I going pio this recorder. Thank you. You can’t say anything okay [chuckles]
RG: Cannot say, “The kaukau good” [chuckling]…
Group: [Eats lunch, recorder back on.]
KM: I’ve got a couple of photos here, I wanted to see if you maybe had some thoughts about.
This is a picture that came out of the Hawaiian Historical Society collection. I’m sorry, it’s
not very good, but I thought you might, I wish those helicopters would go away… [noise
of sight seeing helicopters in background]
RG: This is Mauna Kea [looking at Hawaiian Historical Society Photo No. 1016].
KM: Yes, that’s Mauna Kea.
RG: And this fence here, it looks like there’s a top rail here.
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