Mauna Kea Oral History Appendix - Office of Mauna Kea Management

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two and two together, and whether it was measles or whether it was chicken pox or what
it was, I don’t know. Measles was kind of bad.
You know the islands, in 1852, they actually forbade, there was no inter-island travel for
about a two year period.
Yes.
They didn’t allow any one to go.
Because of spreading. And then the second plague that came in. Came in about what,
three or four years later.
Bad news.
Now Alex Bell was the boss up here and he lived where Kremkow lives.
This is in your time or a little before your time
My time.
Okay.
He and I were good friends, and I was in charge of Ke‘ämoku, so I’d start from Ke‘ämoku
in the mornings. I have to check these paddocks and whatnot around here.
You had a house at Ke‘ämoku also
No, I came from Waimea in a car, I commuted.
You would drive over. And there’s a route up to Ke‘ämoku
That’s right. And they were about three or four fellas that lived at Ke‘ämoku, took care of
the fences and whatnot. So, I’d get my horse from there, that’s where I kept my horses. I
ride, come up here, check around and I’d meet Alex Bell about lunch time and we’d go to
his house over there and have salt pork.
Mountain pig
Mountain pig. Boy that was good stuff that he’d cook for lunch [chuckling]. I’d have to
take my horse and tie it down beyond Alex’s house, where there were some trees, so
Hartwell Carter wouldn’t see it.
[chuckling]
Hartwell Carter, he didn’t like people to be too friendly, you know. He’d probably kick my
‘ökole if he knew I was having lunch with Alex every few weeks. [laughing]
‘Auwë!
In 1947 we got married and we lived in Waimea for a year, year of ‘48 and Willie Kaniho
and Rally was working at Kahuä and Willie Kaniho came by one night with some sheep
for us, mutton. He came in and I heard Rally say “How about the car, where’s the car”
And Willie said “No, I took care already.”
[laughing]
[laughing] You’re kidding, that bad
I found out later that Rally...I asked him, “Why” Oh no, he has to hide the car, we don’t
want Hartwell to know that he came to see him.
‘Auwë!
Well, maybe Hartwell thought Rally would swipe Willie and take him to Kahuä. Maybe, I
always was suspicious about that.
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