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Anglo-American and European Models<br />
the new economy What is the sanction that<br />
would make the institutions get in<strong>to</strong> action<br />
An<strong>to</strong>nio<br />
Borges<br />
Iwould like <strong>to</strong> correct a possible<br />
misperception. I would<br />
not like <strong>to</strong> say that the US<br />
model is the best in the world for<br />
every purpose. I think we have <strong>to</strong> understand<br />
some <strong>of</strong> its disadvantages, but I would stand by<br />
the importance <strong>of</strong> market scrutiny and how<br />
much more powerful it is in the US than in<br />
Europe. I am not discounting the quality <strong>of</strong> the<br />
work that has been done, particularly in Britain,<br />
on analysis and research <strong>of</strong> corporations. I am<br />
simply saying that the market pays less attention<br />
<strong>to</strong> it.<br />
In the US, if a company’s s<strong>to</strong>ck price starts<br />
going down, action follows quickly – managers<br />
get swept away, or if that does not happen, somebody<br />
will take over the company. You might<br />
argue that it is knee-jerk, <strong>to</strong>o fast, but it is much<br />
more powerful in the sense that managers are<br />
more afraid there than anywhere else in the<br />
world. In Britain, managers are afraid <strong>of</strong> the<br />
institutional inves<strong>to</strong>rs, and rightly so; they are<br />
not as afraid <strong>of</strong> the market because it is less powerful.<br />
Indeed, <strong>this</strong> is a very important difference<br />
between the US and Britain. <strong>The</strong> role <strong>of</strong> the<br />
institutional inves<strong>to</strong>rs is crucial here, but much<br />
less important in the US. In fact, US board<br />
members are not supposed <strong>to</strong> talk <strong>to</strong> inves<strong>to</strong>rs,<br />
or if we do, we must talk <strong>to</strong> all <strong>of</strong> them at the<br />
same time. That is the point <strong>of</strong> fair disclosure.<br />
<strong>The</strong> US market operates on <strong>this</strong> premise: you are<br />
not supposed <strong>to</strong> give privileged information <strong>to</strong><br />
anybody. We are not supposed <strong>to</strong> speak <strong>to</strong> influential<br />
inves<strong>to</strong>rs in the US, be they institutions or<br />
block-holders. <strong>The</strong>y are kept at arm’s length.<br />
In Guy Jubb<br />
terms <strong>of</strong> investment by<br />
institutions, I would observe<br />
two things. In the short<br />
term, when markets are bullish, inves<strong>to</strong>rs can<br />
perhaps lean back and say “everything is going<br />
fine” – the problem is when markets start <strong>to</strong> go<br />
bad again, which is what separates the goats<br />
from the sheep. It puts real issues at the institutions’<br />
doorstep and, from a political point <strong>of</strong><br />
view, I suggest institutions are quite easy prey as<br />
politicians start <strong>to</strong> ask “where were the inves<strong>to</strong>rs<br />
all <strong>this</strong> time”<br />
Over Chris Pierce<br />
the last year, the role<br />
<strong>of</strong> institutions in the US<br />
model has significantly<br />
changed, due <strong>to</strong> things like the Disney fiasco and<br />
the problems with Warren Buffett. <strong>The</strong>re are<br />
real political issues concerning the American<br />
institutions – in my last few visits there, the free<br />
rider issue is becoming more important and has<br />
been played by TIA and others. I am concerned<br />
that inves<strong>to</strong>rs should, at an international level,<br />
play the principal part in companies’ operations.<br />
I go along <strong>to</strong> a great extent with what Alastair<br />
said on <strong>this</strong> <strong>to</strong>pic earlier.<br />
To Guy Liu<br />
what extent do we combine<br />
in European CG both<br />
strong institutional<br />
inves<strong>to</strong>rs as well as family shareholdings How<br />
best <strong>to</strong> incorporate an American-style investment<br />
structure on<strong>to</strong> the traditional family approach<br />
which has worked well so far in Europe (not <strong>to</strong><br />
mention the Far East)<br />
When Guy Jubb<br />
is a family not a<br />
family We have seen<br />
that what starts <strong>of</strong>f as a<br />
family company (e.g. Morrison’s in the UK) tends<br />
<strong>to</strong> start <strong>of</strong>f with Mr Morrison as the entrepreneur;<br />
through trust arrangements it gets in<strong>to</strong> the<br />
children’s hands and over the years the trusts<br />
become more diverse and the ownership<br />
becomes more diverse. In trying <strong>to</strong> combine<br />
what is essentially private equity (i.e. family<br />
equity) with public equity, there is always a significant<br />
degree <strong>of</strong> tension: the public equity is<br />
always looking <strong>to</strong> see when the private equity is<br />
going <strong>to</strong> hand over its shares (whether that’s a<br />
good thing or a bad thing, the other shareholders<br />
are continually waiting around for <strong>this</strong> <strong>to</strong> happen).<br />
<strong>The</strong> boards <strong>of</strong> companies, in that situation,<br />
can be rather comic. Simultaneously, they know<br />
that the family has an interest and the board<br />
needs <strong>to</strong> look after it, and the boards can play the<br />
family <strong>of</strong>f the other inves<strong>to</strong>rs. Because the interests<br />
get so diversified over time – Sainsbury’s is<br />
an interesting case in the UK – the accountability<br />
<strong>to</strong> the family is perhaps a critical issue. This is<br />
what I mean by “when is a family not a family.”<br />
In substance, the problem <strong>of</strong> getting from<br />
family-owned <strong>to</strong> public companies, there is no<br />
easy solution.<br />
Iagree Chris Pierce<br />
that the private business<br />
(private equity) is different<br />
from public equity and in<br />
a public company there are certain duties and<br />
responsibilities that the company owes the shareholders.<br />
If you don’t like those responsibilities,<br />
you should stay within the private arena. I do<br />
see that many organisations want access <strong>to</strong> more<br />
finance – but if they want access <strong>to</strong> <strong>this</strong> finance<br />
they will have <strong>to</strong> be more transparent and may<br />
have <strong>to</strong> give up the controls.<br />
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