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Strategies and Balance<br />
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seen in terms <strong>of</strong> regulation and compliance.<br />
<strong>The</strong>re is one issue that helps open all <strong>this</strong> up<br />
and that is the question <strong>of</strong> fraud. Where would<br />
we have been if the frauds in Europe and the US<br />
had not happened If Enron, WorldCom and<br />
Parmalat had been non-existent, in the US there<br />
would have been no Sarbanes-Oxley, no Public<br />
Company Accounting Oversight Board (PCAOB),<br />
no Section 404 and the New York S<strong>to</strong>ck<br />
Exchange would have continued in its stately<br />
progress <strong>to</strong>wards the reform <strong>of</strong> the listing rules<br />
<strong>to</strong> deal with their governance initiatives.<br />
In continental Europe, the High Level<br />
Working Group on Company Law under Jaap<br />
Winter would have finished its work, reported,<br />
and I think the Commission would have lined up<br />
some work <strong>to</strong> follow on the Financial Services<br />
Action Plan.<br />
In the UK, Derek Higgs, who had already<br />
started his work on the effectiveness <strong>of</strong> non-executive<br />
direc<strong>to</strong>rs, would have reported and we may<br />
or may not have had changes <strong>to</strong> the Combined<br />
Code – instead, Derek’s report was clearly<br />
hijacked by government and put up as part as<br />
their response <strong>of</strong> “we’re doing something about<br />
<strong>this</strong> problem as well.” <strong>The</strong>re was a clear ratcheting<br />
up <strong>of</strong> what was in the Code. Some <strong>of</strong> the core<br />
principles <strong>of</strong> the code <strong>to</strong> my mind detract from<br />
what I believe are the sensible recommendations<br />
<strong>of</strong> the report. <strong>The</strong> sensible recommendations are<br />
related <strong>to</strong> some <strong>of</strong> the issues Sir Ronnie was talking<br />
about earlier.<br />
But we are where we are… and where are we<br />
We have some very real problems over expectations,<br />
over definitions, over cause and effect.<br />
Corporate governance is now becoming ever<br />
more linked with regulation and with compliance.<br />
<strong>The</strong>re is a clear link between fraud (or the<br />
likelihood <strong>of</strong> fraud) and the problems <strong>of</strong> the<br />
increased cost <strong>of</strong> compliance and the distraction<br />
it may cause the management. But perhaps <strong>this</strong><br />
is not the issue. Before we consider how we can<br />
move forward and strike the right balance, I am<br />
afraid <strong>to</strong> say we come back <strong>to</strong> the question that<br />
rather dogged the first group, <strong>of</strong> what is meant<br />
by governance. George Dallas alluded <strong>to</strong> pornography<br />
and I think <strong>of</strong> the old description <strong>of</strong> an elephant:<br />
I know what it is but I cannot describe it.<br />
In the UK, businesses see governance as synonymous<br />
with compliance. If you go <strong>to</strong> conferences<br />
like <strong>this</strong> – and I don’t want people <strong>to</strong> put<br />
their hands up – two questions are always asked:<br />
would all the reforms that have taken place s<strong>to</strong>p<br />
another Enron happening (and everybody says<br />
no), then we go on<strong>to</strong> the Marconi question: was<br />
Marconi a failure <strong>of</strong> governance or was it a failure<br />
<strong>of</strong> strategy (and everybody says it was a failure<br />
<strong>of</strong> strategy rather than governance). <strong>The</strong>n<br />
everybody moves on, feeling quite comfortable<br />
that they know where the line is drawn.<br />
I reflect on a conversation I had with a FTSE<br />
100 chairman. It was one <strong>of</strong> those dinners that<br />
you get invited <strong>to</strong> where there are a few<br />
inves<strong>to</strong>rs, a few people from companies and a<br />
chairman. <strong>The</strong> idea is <strong>to</strong> educate people about<br />
how chairmen and inves<strong>to</strong>rs and governance<br />
come <strong>to</strong>gether. And there was another company<br />
secretary there who was bemoaning the fact that<br />
he was trying <strong>to</strong> put <strong>to</strong>gether his report on corporate<br />
governance for his annual report, and the<br />
length <strong>of</strong> time it was taking, and the level <strong>of</strong> disclosure<br />
that was required… And the FTSE 100<br />
chairman said, “there we go again. We are here<br />
<strong>to</strong> talk about what boards do, and we have<br />
already started talking about corporate governance.<br />
Now let us spend another ten minutes on<br />
that, kill the issue and get on with what we are<br />
really here <strong>to</strong> discuss.”<br />
I think that is absolutely missing the plot. I<br />
don’t want <strong>to</strong> get philosophical about <strong>this</strong>, but if<br />
governance isn’t what boards do, what on earth<br />
do they do <strong>The</strong> prime role <strong>of</strong> the board is <strong>to</strong><br />
govern and the fact that you can have a chairman<br />
<strong>of</strong> a FTSE 100 company making that sort <strong>of</strong><br />
statement shows one <strong>of</strong> the real problems that<br />
we have had because <strong>of</strong> the way in which the<br />
agenda has been rolled out within the UK, and in<br />
other parts <strong>of</strong> the world, in reaction <strong>to</strong> problems<br />
<strong>of</strong> corporate fraud.<br />
I am very fortunate. I have been with BP for<br />
three years – not that I have only been there for<br />
three years – but I am very fortunate that I have<br />
been with BP for three years and have been able<br />
<strong>to</strong> follow the example <strong>of</strong> some <strong>of</strong> the work that<br />
has been done by some <strong>of</strong> my predecessors,<br />
because governance is something that we have<br />
thought about and we have had a set <strong>of</strong> governance<br />
policies in place since about 1996. <strong>The</strong>y<br />
were put in place for one reason: David Simon<br />
was Chief Executive <strong>of</strong> the company and he was<br />
going <strong>to</strong> move up <strong>to</strong> become Chairman, and John<br />
Brown was going <strong>to</strong> take over as Chief Executive.<br />
David went <strong>to</strong> my predecessor Judith Hanratty<br />
and said, “look, I know what it’s like <strong>to</strong> be a Chief<br />
Executive, and you and the Board are now asking<br />
me <strong>to</strong> be a Chairman. What on earth do I have<br />
<strong>to</strong> do” Judith, true <strong>to</strong> her academic training and<br />
work at the bar, went <strong>of</strong>f and spent a lot <strong>of</strong> time<br />
thinking about <strong>this</strong> with a number <strong>of</strong> people and<br />
we came up with a set <strong>of</strong> governance policies that<br />
we put in place at BP in 1996/7. Even with all<br />
the changes that have gone on in regulations<br />
since then, we have not changed one word <strong>of</strong> our<br />
policies. <strong>The</strong> reason is that we did what Derek<br />
Higgs suggested in his report.<br />
People don’t read Derek’s report; they just<br />
read the Combined Code. I would commend the<br />
words <strong>of</strong> the report <strong>to</strong> you rather than the Code,<br />
because it led us <strong>to</strong> work out what are the different<br />
roles <strong>of</strong> the board, chairman, chief executive,