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Institutional Activism<br />

down. What I care about is that they go up and<br />

down – at any moment the price may be on the<br />

way down or on the way up, I don’t mind that<br />

much. I am not sure that is not the same with<br />

institutional inves<strong>to</strong>rs. After all, their incentives<br />

regarding their clients are commission and pr<strong>of</strong>its<br />

made when you buy and sell, and you can see<br />

that there is a lot <strong>of</strong> movement in s<strong>to</strong>ck markets.<br />

In my country, the Netherlands, it is still<br />

legally the duty <strong>of</strong> the advisory board <strong>to</strong> serve the<br />

interest <strong>of</strong> the company at large, and all stakeholders,<br />

and not favour one part <strong>of</strong> the group. I<br />

am a little bit puzzled that <strong>this</strong> discussion seems<br />

<strong>to</strong> be focused on the right <strong>of</strong> shareholders alone<br />

<strong>to</strong> intervene, as I’m not certain that that would be<br />

their job in the right type <strong>of</strong> solution.<br />

Guy Liu<br />

Brunel<br />

University<br />

So long as independent direc<strong>to</strong>rs<br />

are paid by the company,<br />

they are always “captured”<br />

and can never be truly<br />

independent. Has there been any thought about<br />

creating some kind <strong>of</strong> external organisation, or<br />

perhaps a kind <strong>of</strong> “governance fund” that could<br />

pay direc<strong>to</strong>rs so they could be truly independent<br />

Michael<br />

Pin<strong>to</strong>-<br />

Duschinsky<br />

Brunel<br />

University<br />

Iwould like <strong>to</strong> ask Alastair a<br />

question that is quite practical.<br />

I am a direc<strong>to</strong>r <strong>of</strong> a nongovernmental<br />

organisation in the<br />

United States and there is a question<br />

<strong>of</strong> how active we should be<br />

in seeking information. <strong>The</strong> direc<strong>to</strong>rs asked <strong>to</strong> be<br />

able <strong>to</strong> see the salaries <strong>of</strong> the employees in order<br />

<strong>to</strong> understand the budget. <strong>The</strong>re has been a<br />

change in staff and the new head <strong>of</strong> personnel<br />

said that she thought that it was quite micromanaging<br />

<strong>to</strong> ask <strong>to</strong> see <strong>this</strong> list, and it would be<br />

involving the direc<strong>to</strong>rs in micromanagement<br />

rather than in governance. I fly <strong>to</strong> Washing<strong>to</strong>n for<br />

my board <strong>meeting</strong> in eight days time… what do I<br />

do<br />

Pr<strong>of</strong>essor<br />

Dan<br />

Prentice<br />

Alastair<br />

Ross<br />

Goobey<br />

Resign!<br />

Is there a remuneration committee<br />

in <strong>this</strong> NGO, and if<br />

not, why not It has not got<br />

the proper governance structures<br />

otherwise. If you have an audit committee, you<br />

should have a remuneration committee.<br />

Michael<br />

Pin<strong>to</strong>-<br />

Duschinsky<br />

Alastair<br />

Ross<br />

Goobey<br />

<strong>The</strong>re is a human resources<br />

committee, which I’m on.<br />

<strong>The</strong>y do not want <strong>to</strong> give us<br />

the remuneration information.<br />

You have every right <strong>to</strong><br />

insist. Whether you are<br />

indeed micromanaging<br />

depends on what you do with the<br />

information. You must not go <strong>to</strong> the HR department<br />

and say, “so-and-so is only doing X,Y and Z,<br />

and you should pay her $102,000, not $103,000”<br />

that is micromanagement. But you have every<br />

right <strong>to</strong> see the structure <strong>of</strong> remuneration; it is<br />

what you are there <strong>to</strong> do. Make that point – you<br />

are not trying <strong>to</strong> say what everybody should get,<br />

but you should be allowed <strong>to</strong> have the information.<br />

<strong>The</strong>re are people on trial in the United<br />

States now that claim they never got all <strong>this</strong><br />

information. If you are in a fiduciary position,<br />

<strong>this</strong> is information you must have, and you<br />

should be in a position <strong>to</strong> insist on it.<br />

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