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Page: 344<br />

projections are not possible for 2011 to 2020 (could only be based on<br />

long range price trends), it can be assumed, based on long term<br />

industry supply/demand (price) trends, that the company could<br />

achieve similar EBITDA and EBIT earnings from 2011 to 2020 as<br />

projected for 2001 to 2010.<br />

(Emphasis in original)<br />

[1299] In his oral evidence he said it was difficult to project those earnings due to the cyclical<br />

nature of the lumber industry. However, in cross-examination he testified as follows, at pages 1905<br />

2010 FC 495 (CanLII)<br />

to 1907:<br />

A. It’s very ugly today. And lumber prices are probably 50<br />

percent lower than they were only two years ago. So as a result,<br />

companies that were making a lot of money two years ago are now<br />

losing a lot of money.<br />

But the concept I was referring to here is that, even though<br />

as a consulting company, we were very uncomfortable developing<br />

a ten-year forecast showing year by year all the detail of what the<br />

lumber selling price would be, what would be the value for the<br />

generation of electricity. We do believe that the lumber industry<br />

over the last 50 years has worked in a very cyclical manner. In<br />

other words, the lumber market is constantly moving up or down.<br />

It’s never flat. And that movement of up and down is cyclical in<br />

nature and, if you look at about a 50-year time span, you will see<br />

that almost every ten years there is a peak and there is a bottom<br />

within ten-year periods, which is related to U.S. housing starts. So<br />

what I’m conveying here is that the ten years which I did analyze<br />

and project show a span of time in which the – a very typical span<br />

of time in the lumber industry where the market went to a peak in<br />

2005, has come to a valley in 2008, and is expected to improve in<br />

2009 and then 2010 and gradually build up strength again into the<br />

early 2011, 2012.<br />

So, what I’m maintaining, or what we’re maintaining, is<br />

that we expect the period 2011 to 2020 to contain a similar cycle<br />

peak and valley that we experienced from 2001 to 2010.<br />

Q. So, to be clear, sir, while the schedule that we’ll refer to in<br />

a few minutes projects losses or profits, however you choose to<br />

characterize them, through to the end of 2010, what you are saying<br />

in this particular paragraph is that, if you take it to the next tenyear<br />

period beyond that, then that is a further consideration.

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