Conversation Transcript - Ignite Realtime

Conversation Transcript 

Participants: 61 

Start Date: May 7, 2008 11:03:47 AM 

Duration: 1 h, 49 min 

Message Count: 383 

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[11:03 AM] Guest406: I saw something funny a few minutes ago. "Join community 

group chat in 61 minute" instead of "61 minutes" 

[11:04 AM] Guest406: Maybe change "if (MINUTES_IN_HOUR - minute != 1)" to "if 

(minutes != 1)" 

[11:04 AM] akrherz: I see that too, hehe 

[11:06 AM] akrherz: I grabbed a screenshot of it: 

http://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/pickup/61minute.png 

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[11:06 AM] WinSrev: that looks like Linux 


[11:12 AM] Guest49: hi guys, i have al 


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[11:15 AM] lenin: i have a little trouble, download the openfire and the fastpath plugin, 

everythin is ok in the administration console, but i don´t know how to add on my web 

page the click to chat option, anyone can help me, i´m developing in c# 

[11:15 AM] lenin: i´m a little lost 

[11:15 AM] WinSrev: developing in C# you do know it's a Java program right 


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[11:20 AM] lenin: not really, i only use basic java 

[11:20 AM] WinSrev: hmm 

[11:21 AM] lenin: but i really need to make this working, so if a need to learn java 

deeper i will 

[11:21 AM] WinSrev: it depends what you're trying to do exactly 

[11:22 AM] lenin: i´m trying to implement a online help application 

[11:22 AM] Guest125: hello 

[11:22 AM] lenin: someting like this chat room, but one to one chat 


[11:23 AM] WinSrev: hmm, not entirely sure what to suggest 

[11:23 AM] akrherz: lenin: you just want the html code to launch the fastpath client 

[11:24 AM] Guest125: sorry to interrupt, but is the sourcecode to this Openfire Chat 

available for download This is pretty nifty.. 

[11:24 AM] lenin: exactly 



[11:24 AM] akrherz: Guest125: read the recent chatlog from this morning 

[11:24 AM] WinSrev: Guest125: not as far as i know 


[11:25 AM] lenin: akrherz: di you know where can i get this html code 

[11:26 AM] lenin: or where can a read more about this 

[11:26 AM] akrherz: lenin: sorry, I don't know 

[11:26 AM] Guest255: Hi guys, has anyone noticed xmpp.client.idle not working in the 

latest builds 

[11:26 AM] WinSrev: the SVN builds 

[11:26 AM] Guest255: No 3.5.1 

[11:27 AM] Guest255: Release ;) 


[11:27 AM] WinSrev: ah 

[11:27 AM] akrherz: Guest255: did you post about this last night 



[11:27 AM] Guest255: Yes 

[11:27 AM] akrherz: Guest255: and .... 



[11:27 AM] Guest255: We use a custom flash client so it could be on our end 


[11:28 AM] Guest255: Don't know yet... Just turned on debug logging 

[11:28 AM] akrherz: Guest255: do you use whitespace ping 


[11:28 AM] Guest255: No 

[11:28 AM] Guest255: It didn't seem to be needed back around Openfire 3.2 

[11:29 AM] akrherz: Guest255: I had problems with 3.5.1 and Pidgin, but that system 

setting fixed it for me 

[11:29 AM] akrherz: you sure you have it typed correctly 

[11:29 AM] Guest255: Whitespace ping... 

[11:30 AM] Guest255: You mean in my settings pane We have it on 2 separate 

machines and I don't think we messed it up twice 

[11:30 AM] Guest255: Is whitespace ping basically a keep-alive packet setting 

[11:30 AM] akrherz: admin console on server-properties.jsp 

[11:30 AM] Guest255: Ok 

[11:31 AM] Guest255: I'm there 


[11:31 AM] akrherz: is it set 

[11:31 AM] bruce (bruce@kingshomeworld.com/K.I.M CHAT) has joined the room 

[11:32 AM] Guest255: xmpp.client.idle is set -- currently to 360000000000000 

[11:32 AM] Guest255: Before we've had it set to -1 


[11:32 AM] akrherz: hmm, -1 should work. 

[11:32 AM] Guest255: Yeah 

[11:32 AM] akrherz: with the server in debug mode, it should tell you if/why users are 

getting kicked 

[11:32 AM] Guest255: What is this whitespace ping setting 

[11:32 AM] Guest255: Ok 

[11:33 AM] Guest255: I'll check that out 

[11:33 AM] Guest255: Thanks for your help 

[11:33 AM] akrherz: there is no setting, just wondered if your custom client 

implemented it 

[11:33 AM] Guest255: Yeah 

[11:33 AM] Guest255: We could 

[11:33 AM] akrherz: Pidgin's problem is that it does XEP-ping, which Openfire does 

not support 

[11:33 AM] Guest255: If it solves the problem we will add it to our client 

[11:34 AM] akrherz: I did a whitespace ping in my python client and that worked fine 






[11:37 AM] Guest255: I had another question... does anybody have any news on gpl 

clustering solutions 

[11:37 AM] bruce: good morning Winsrev 

[11:37 AM] WinSrev: hello Bruce 

[11:37 AM] bruce: :-) whats up 

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[11:39 AM] WinSrev: nothing much, you 


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[11:43 AM] bruce: just wok up now making some coffee 

[11:44 AM] akrherz: Guest255: I am not aware of any progress, sounds like there is 

some plumbing to do in the openfire code to get it to a state that a gpl clustering 

solution will work, not sure 

[11:44 AM] Guest133: Just wondering if there an eta for the next version of Spark 

[11:44 AM] WinSrev: erm 

[11:44 AM] WinSrev: i'd say about a month 

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[11:44 AM] WinSrev: i'm currently working on some issues 

[11:44 AM] Guest133: great, looking forward to it 

[11:44 AM] Guest133: yeah i noticed that in the forums.. 

[11:45 AM] WinSrev: great :) 


[11:46 AM] bruce: is it possible to make multiple chat room subdomains with openfire 

3.5.1 

[11:46 AM] akrherz: bruce: that is a 3.6.0 feature 


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[11:47 AM] Guest133: I'm not sure if this is a feature controlled by the admin console 

or not...but when sending a broadcast it chooses offline users as well then when an 

offline user logs it they're swamped with msgs throughout the day or evening prior... 

[11:47 AM] bruce: ok thanks for fast path the conference room dont seem to work 

[11:48 AM] akrherz: Guest133: which version of openfire with the broadcast plugin 

[11:49 AM] Guest133: Oh, Im sorry...for Spark..vers...hmmm, 2.8 is the most recent, 

right

[11:49 AM] WinSrev: yeah, 2.5.8 

[11:49 AM] WinSrev: this is a known issue 

[11:49 AM] Guest133: close enough :p 

[11:49 AM] Guest133: Ah ok, a bug that perhaps will be fixed for the new release :D 


[11:50 AM] WinSrev: err no, it'll be fixed in 2.6.1 

[11:50 AM] WinSrev: Guest133: http://www.igniterealtime.org/issues/browse/SPARK- 

977 


[11:51 AM] Guest133: ah nice..thx, missed reading that one.. 

[11:51 AM] WinSrev: no problem ;) 




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[11:57 AM] blix: I have a customer who wants a live chat capability on their website. 

You'll have to forgive me if openfire does this as i haven't browsed over your site 

entirely. But would this be possible and if so what features would i need to purchase if 

they are included in the commercial version 

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[11:58 AM] David: blix: there isn't a commercial version anymore 

[11:58 AM] David: fastpath is open source now 


[11:59 AM] blix: so fastpath would be what i would need to accomplish this 

[11:59 AM] David: yes 

[11:59 AM] David: actually 

[11:59 AM] blix: do you know if they support ssl or encrypted communication 

[11:59 AM] Dawn (dawn@jivesoftware.com/Adium) has joined the room 

[11:59 AM] David: hold up a sec; are you looking for support style stuff click to chat 

with agents, routing, etc... 

[12:00 PM] David: or more of embedded chatrooms 

[12:00 PM] Dawn: hey everyone! 

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[12:00 PM] David: hi Dawn! 

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[12:00 PM] blix: chat with agents, routing, etc. 

[12:00 PM] David: ok, fastpath 

[12:00 PM] David: and I have no idea what it supports, sorry 

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[12:01 PM] wp: 

Hello I running opefire 3.4.5 and with the embeded database, how do I reset the admin 

password 

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[12:01 PM] wroot: hello hello 

[12:01 PM] wroot: winsrev is da man of the year! :))) 

[12:01 PM] Daniel (daniel.henninger@jivesoftware.com/spark) has joined the room 

[12:02 PM] Guest296: Does spark have a silent installation switch 

[12:02 PM] WinSrev: hey, i am lol 

[12:02 PM] wroot: Dawn, dont worry, you still are the most beautiful here :)) 

[12:02 PM] Daniel: good lord i almost forgot to appear! 

[12:02 PM] Daniel: how is everyone doing 

[12:02 PM] WinSrev: lol 

[12:02 PM] Dawn: aw, thanks! :-) 

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[12:03 PM] Daniel: lol yes Dawn, the light blue text color in your name highlight really 

reflects your eyes 

[12:03 PM] Gato: for those of you using the monitoring plugin 

[12:03 PM] wroot: :))))) 

[12:03 PM] David: hahaha. Daniel++ 

[12:03 PM] Daniel: =) =) 


[12:03 PM] Gato: you might be interested to know that yesterday we released a new 

version of it 

[12:03 PM] wroot: Gato, what's new 

[12:03 PM] Gato: yesterday we also released the clustering plugin 

[12:03 PM] David: /me starts cleaning up this as3crypto patch 

[12:04 PM] Gato: anyone using a valid Enterprise license can use the clustering 

plugin 

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[12:04 PM] Daniel: oh dammit guys i'm sorry i didn't finish up the webchat OS 

release it's in progress though. it slipped down my list though =( 

[12:04 PM] Dawn: cool, I've always wanted a fan club :-) 

[12:04 PM] Gato: wroot - 

http://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/openfire/plugins/monitoring/changelog.html 

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[12:04 PM] wroot: i've even colored myself blue too :)))) 

[12:04 PM] wroot: well, Spark did 

[12:04 PM] David: Dawn: are you going to use your new power over your fans for 

good or for awesome 

[12:05 PM] Daniel: lol 

[12:05 PM] ryan: is this an open chat that I can ask a question in 

[12:05 PM] Dawn: can I use it for evil 

[12:05 PM] wroot: ryan, it was 

[12:05 PM] David: ryan: absolutely 

[12:05 PM] wroot: joking 

[12:05 PM] David: in fact, you just did, I think ;) 

[12:05 PM] Daniel: ryan: yes but you are only allowed one question, and you just used 

it ;D 

[12:05 PM] David: Dawn: probably 

[12:05 PM] Daniel: (just being a smart ass ;) ) what's up 

[12:05 PM] ryan: dang it! 

[12:05 PM] wp: Hello I running opefire 3.4.5 and with the embeded database, how do I 

reset the admin password 

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[12:05 PM] Daniel: wp: reset setup 

[12:05 PM] Daniel: er 

[12:05 PM] Daniel: wtf 

[12:06 PM] Daniel: reRUN setup 

[12:06 PM] ryan: i set up openfire on a pc and having a problem connecting a mac 

[12:06 PM] Daniel: you can do this by shutting down your server, editing openfire.xml, 

and changing true to false 

[12:06 PM] wroot: clustering is open source now 

[12:06 PM] Daniel: ryan: can you connect from other machines beyond the mac 

[12:06 PM] WinSrev: whoa, these conversations move quickly 

[12:06 PM] ryan: yes, no problems at all 


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[12:07 PM] Daniel: wroot: no. we can't do that with coherence unfortunately. 

someone else would need to write an open source based version of it. (there was 

community interest in doing so apparently, don't know if it's still there) 

[12:07 PM] Daniel: ryan: hrm. what chat client from the mac 

[12:07 PM] David: WinSrev: mostly due to Daniel spamming things when he typos ;)

[12:07 PM] ryan: i tried spark first with no luck, and then tried adium 

[12:08 PM] wroot: winsrev - i was asking about such thing before you step in to Spark, 

but.. isnt it too much issues for upcoming release 

[12:08 PM] Daniel: i was half expecting that it would be a windows firewall issue, but 

not if it works from other machines 

[12:08 PM] Daniel: david: bite me 

[12:08 PM] Dawn: watch out, Daniel's getting feisty :-) 

[12:08 PM] WinSrev: wroot: releases in my opinion should contain a lot of fixes unless 

one of them is absolutely critical 

[12:09 PM] bruce: wp I made the mistake of deleting the admin user so I use the 

import tool and the admin name user did not import.So I had to reinstall the server 

again.:-d that admin user is a tricky devil 

[12:09 PM] notz: Daniel: hy, have you some minutes to talk about the msn gateway 


[12:09 PM] Guest296: is there a switch or something that will install Spark (windows) 

silently 

[12:09 PM] Daniel: notz: uhm maybe ;) what's up 

[12:09 PM] wroot: winsrev, but the release time is growing and error chance is 

growing too 


[12:10 PM] WinSrev: wroot: it's been delayed 2 years, whats another month ;) 

[12:10 PM] notz: first i have located the exact reason, why the msn gateway is only 

working ~1 day for me 


[12:10 PM] wroot: Guest296, maybe msi install has such 

[12:10 PM] Daniel: winsrev: is has not been delayed for 2 years =P the last release 

was in november 

[12:10 PM] Daniel: and yes i know ignite realtime is showing 2006 for some bizarre 

reason on the product page 


[12:10 PM] Daniel: notz: oh what's that =) 

[12:11 PM] wroot: why ignite is on 1.x clearspace 

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[12:11 PM] WinSrev: daniel: really sorry, my mistake lol 


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[12:11 PM] notz: if i replace the WeakReference in MSNListener for the MsnSession 

it's stable 

[12:11 PM] Daniel: oh snap wroot asked the million dollar question ;) 

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[12:11 PM] Dawn: wroot - it's a secret :-) 

[12:11 PM] wroot: :) 

[12:11 PM] ryan: what is the syntax for entering the server name when i connect the 

mac 

[12:11 PM] Daniel: notz: that's very odd. but definitely a good find. 

[12:11 PM] wroot: i can keep that secret with you :) 

[12:12 PM] Dawn: just kidding - we're going to upgrade to 2.x soon, but we have some 

legacy web services code accessing clearspace that needs to be re-written 

[12:12 PM] David: ryan: name@domain, as usual 

[12:12 PM] Gato: fyi, today I will be working on the client management feature and 

make it open source soon 

[12:12 PM] Dawn: We're trying to find the time to work on it. 

[12:12 PM] Gato: that would be the last piece of functionality that was present in 

enterprise that has not been open source yet 

[12:12 PM] Daniel: yay 2.0 upgrade! 

[12:12 PM] ryan: david: hmmm, what about the server address 

[12:13 PM] slipscher: I installed Openfire 3.5.1 on a test box to prepare for production 

upgrade. The Enterprise plug in says license will expire in 5 days. Is there an available 

license file 

[12:13 PM] wroot: Gato - there is a question or two on the forums about admin 

checkboxes near users in groups. Are they doing some hidden things Maybe those 

should be removed 

[12:13 PM] David: ryan: hm 

[12:14 PM] Gato: wroot - do you have a link to those threads I have no idea what you 

are talking about :) 

[12:14 PM] wroot: 

http://www.igniterealtime.org/community/servlet/JiveServlet/download/163799- 

2093/groupadmin.gif 

[12:14 PM] ryan: david: the name@domain is entered for username right and the 

server address is something like smb:\\blahblah 

[12:14 PM] David: no! 

[12:15 PM] David: the server address should definitely not be an smb url 

[12:15 PM] David: smb has nothing to do with xmpp 


[12:15 PM] wroot: in spark case username should be only username 

[12:15 PM] David: also I forgot spark separates those out, yeah 

[12:15 PM] Gato: wroot - gotcha. Yes, maybe we should remove the admin/member 

option since we are not using it for nothing at this moment.

[12:15 PM] David: what wroot said 

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[12:15 PM] ryan: david: ok, that makes sense 

[12:16 PM] wroot: Gato - ok :) 

[12:16 PM] slipscher: Anybody know about Openfire 3.5.1 licensing Looks like it still 

requires a license key. 

[12:16 PM] David: slipscher: openfire doesn't require a license key 

[12:16 PM] David: the enterprise plugin does 


[12:16 PM] slipscher: On the Enterprise tab says it will expire in 5 days 


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[12:17 PM] David: slipscher: yes, which is what I said 

[12:17 PM] David: enterprise has been replaced by a suite of open source plugins 

[12:17 PM] slipscher: sorry, was out of the yellow highlight 

[12:17 PM] ryan: david: i'm going to go check it out, and see exactly what I'm 

missing, i gave up on getting the mac to connect a few weeks ago, so i'm forgetting 

exactly where my issue is :-| 

[12:17 PM] Guest296: The msi doesn't appear to be a silent installer, is there a switch 

or something to silently install either the EXE or MSI for spark 

[12:17 PM] WinSrev: slipscher: that can be found in the available plugins page 

[12:19 PM] wroot: Guest296, i guess no. But people are somhow deploying Spark via 

GPO, maybe with custom MSI installs 


[12:19 PM] slipscher: Is Jive selling licenses for the Enterprise plug in 

[12:19 PM] bruce: nice music score there Dawn 


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[12:19 PM] bruce: I like that :-d 

[12:19 PM] Guest296: The Government Printing Office 

[12:19 PM] Guest296: or is GPO a program of some sort 

[12:19 PM] David: slipscher: as far as I know, no 

[12:20 PM] matt: slipscher -- in general, no we're not 

[12:20 PM] Dawn: bruce - oops. I have terrible taste in music 

[12:20 PM] Dawn: i mostly turn on the iTunes status to provide endless amusement 

for co-workers 


[12:20 PM] wroot: Guest296 - Group Policy Object 

[12:20 PM] bruce: I live grate music electric blues is my favorite

[12:20 PM] Guest296: oh, group policy...ok 

[12:20 PM] slipscher: I need the archiving the enterprise plug in provides. Is there a 

way to maintain that funcionality 

[12:21 PM] WinSrev: yes 

[12:21 PM] WinSrev: it's already a free plugin 

[12:21 PM] Daniel: slipscher: delete the enterprise plugin and install the monitoring 

plugin 

[12:21 PM] Guest296: I'll peruse that avenue then. 

[12:21 PM] WinSrev: It's called "Monitoring Service" in openfire plugin page 

[12:21 PM] wroot: Monitoring Service 

[12:21 PM] WinSrev: beat you to it wroot! 1 point to me! lol 

[12:21 PM] Daniel: slipscher: the monitoring plugin is literally the pieces you are 

referring to from enterprise, split into their own plugin =) 

[12:22 PM] Daniel: well i beat both of y'all, so ha 

[12:22 PM] Daniel: ;) 


[12:22 PM] wroot: i just let you two beat me :) 

[12:22 PM] slipscher: thx. I'll install that and uninstall enterprise 

[12:22 PM] WinSrev: lol wroot 

[12:22 PM] wroot: i'm at Lithuania you know :) almost the Moon :) 

[12:22 PM] Daniel: slipscher: if you have already archived data, be sure to read the 

readme and follow the instructions. there's some routines you would need to run to 

convert form old to new 

[12:23 PM] slipscher: thanks, I saw that warning 

[12:23 PM] Daniel: =) 

[12:23 PM] Daniel: this is a very busy chat! =) 

[12:24 PM] wroot: people are still asking about using this web chat, is SparkWeb a 

solution for them (for muc only chat) 

[12:24 PM] matt: wroot -- i think it will be, although it will take some time for the UI to 

get setup that way 

[12:24 PM] David: wroot: one could build a groupchat-only autojoining client on top of 

the sparkweb codebase very easily 

[12:25 PM] wroot: heleno alves - i hope you saw what Matt and David said, so i wont 

reply in your thread :) 

[12:25 PM] bruce: If you add webchat to sparkweb you are going to need a very fast 

system to run it 

[12:26 PM] WinSrev: i think spark is going to make me go crazy 

[12:26 PM] David: bruce: how so 

[12:26 PM] bruce: how so what 

[12:26 PM] wroot: winsrev - no no, not again, Daniel first, now you

[12:26 PM] wroot: :) 

[12:26 PM] WinSrev: wroot: lol, there's loads of functions that just references other 

functions :s 

[12:26 PM] wroot: i almost forgot Derek, noone knows what happened to him :)) 

[12:26 PM] David: bruce: it shouldn't be particularly cpu-intensive 


[12:27 PM] ryan: david: i'm getting host name invalid 

[12:27 PM] wroot: Spark is a very functional program :) 

[12:27 PM] Daniel: wroot: nowdays, derek spends all day sitting in a dark room 

rocking back and forth 

[12:27 PM] Guest296: apparently typing "start /wait msiexec /qn /norestart /i 

spark_2_5_8.msi" into a command prompt installs spark with no user interaction. 

[12:27 PM] WinSrev: Daniel: lol 

[12:28 PM] Dawn: yeah, we don't talk about Derek anymore. shhhh 

[12:29 PM] bruce: ok you would know I am still just a new be at this flash stuff.David 

[12:29 PM] wroot: ignite web is down or what 

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[12:29 PM] David: urgh, seems so 

[12:29 PM] Dawn: i'll report it 

[12:29 PM] bruce: :-d 

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[12:29 PM] WinSrev: it may be down 

[12:30 PM] Dawn: ok, we've got someone looking at it 

[12:30 PM] WinSrev: that was quick 

[12:30 PM] David: bruce: most of the performance issues I've seen in flash are due to 

incompetent API design, not underlying runtime issues 

[12:30 PM] wroot: looking 

[12:30 PM] wroot: i'm looking too :) 

[12:30 PM] David: so as long as I manage to avoid those... it should be fine :) 


[12:31 PM] WinSrev: just turn it off and on again, that always does the trick ;) 

[12:31 PM] Dawn: yep, just looking :-P 

[12:31 PM] WinSrev: yay! works again! 


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[12:31 PM] wroot: it crowd :))) 

[12:31 PM] bruce: mite be the firefox browser and session catch thing 

[12:31 PM] WinSrev: wroot: lol, excellent show :) 

[12:32 PM] bruce: its refresh with browser messengers is not so good 

[12:32 PM] bruce: its a cpu gobbler

[12:32 PM] David: bruce: I'm not sure what you're talking about... 

[12:32 PM] David: the ignite groupchat something else 

[12:33 PM] heleno alves__: Somebody know where I can get group_chat.jsp 

[12:33 PM] David: heleno: it's not a product that's been released 


[12:33 PM] slushpupie: So Im forced to run openfire on a very small memory footprintany 

hints/tips to get memory consumption down 

[12:34 PM] WinSrev: i can't believe my spark topic has 31 replies in just 24 hours 

[12:34 PM] heleno alves__: :( 



[12:34 PM] slushpupie: WinSrev: Spark has been neglected for a while, so people are 

going to jump on it 

[12:34 PM] heleno alves__: I don't can find a MUC for multi client as group_chat.jsp ... 


[12:34 PM] WinSrev: yeah, i noticed people were posting about bug requests though 

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[12:35 PM] wroot: well, i remember it was a huge topic about Top 5 Spark features you 

need 

[12:35 PM] heleno alves__: Somebody know an option for MUC multi client to work 

with openfire 

[12:35 PM] WinSrev: yeah, i'm trying to get more new features in the releases rather 

than them all being just bug fixes 


[12:36 PM] WinSrev: of course, fixing the bugs will still happen ;) 





[12:36 PM] wroot: heleno, it was said in this chat, you can try sparkweb, but you will 

have to customize it maybe 


[12:36 PM] David: s/maybe/definitely 

[12:37 PM] David: it's about ~100 lines of code on top of sparkweb to get something 

like this 

[12:37 PM] heleno alves__: Yes ... i thinking about it. Remove the IM tab an have only 

the conference tab ... 

[12:38 PM] wroot: winsrev i have lots of feature requests in JIRA :)) 

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[12:38 PM] rob: Hello, folks 

[12:38 PM] wroot: you can make any of them, or just all :))) 

[12:38 PM] David: hi rob 

[12:38 PM] wroot: hi 

[12:39 PM] WinSrev: hey Rob 

[12:39 PM] wroot: Gato - i'm using embedded-db and lately openfire.log file has grown 

a lot, so my backup was 30 Mb and now it's 180 MB. Is it normal 


[12:40 PM] Guest426: I've asked this question in the forum without answer, and 

hopefully someone can answer it - how do I implement my own roster provider The 

documentation around writing custom auth/group/roster providers is *very* lacking. 


[12:41 PM] akrherz: wroot: what messages are filling your log file 

[12:41 PM] WinSrev: Guest426: maybe try using something like Helga (community 

openfire plugin) 

[12:41 PM] heleno alves__: Why group_chat.jsp not become open source Not is an 

possibility 

[12:41 PM] wroot: ee.. i didnt checked :) 

[12:42 PM] bruce: Helga is very good plugin 

[12:42 PM] wroot: but this file is in db dir 

[12:42 PM] WinSrev: i thought you might say that bruce ;) 

[12:42 PM] David: heleno: it's really annoying to set up, and is code that nobody is 

working on anymore 

[12:42 PM] bruce: :-) 

[12:42 PM] wroot: and openfire.log size is constantly changing 

[12:43 PM] bruce: not like sulci bot witch keeps braking 

[12:43 PM] David: we could put it out there, but without a bunch of effort writing up 

detailed documentation, and helping people debug apache proxy configuration 

issues... it wouldn't be much use 

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[12:43 PM] heleno alves__: hmmm ok. 

[12:44 PM] David: a much more useful approach that would take around the same 

amount of time (maybe less) would be to build something similar on top of sparkweb 

[12:44 PM] Gato: wroot - as Daryl said, lets check what is being stored there. Lets 

identify the new data that produced that big change 

[12:44 PM] Todd (mtstravel): Hi all... Better late than never

[12:44 PM] heleno alves__: Yes ... 

[12:44 PM] David: hi Todd 

[12:44 PM] wroot: hi todd 

[12:45 PM] Dawn: todd thinks that since he's jumped above Daniel in the top members 

board that he can just pop into the chat whenever ;-) 

[12:45 PM] wroot: Gato - ook 

[12:45 PM] Dawn: hi Todd. 

[12:45 PM] Todd (mtstravel): lol 

[12:45 PM] Todd (mtstravel): well you know 

[12:45 PM] Todd (mtstravel): Us full figured men have to eat 


[12:45 PM] Todd (mtstravel): so lunch came first for me 


[12:46 PM] Guest426: winsrev: that's a plugin, and it doesn't solve my needs - I want 

to give users a static roster at login based on data from a SOAP API call. I already auth 

users from my external application over SOAP, and that works fine. I just want to 

implement a RosterItemProvider, but that doesn't seem possible under the current 

version 

[12:46 PM] wroot: i wonder, will i be able to open 180MB file.. 

[12:46 PM] akrherz: david, forgive my misunderstanding, but how soon will the "web" 

in sparkweb mean port 80 or 443 

[12:46 PM] Dawn: the rest of us just eat over our keyboards ... wait maybe that's why 

my keys are all sticky :-) 

[12:46 PM] Todd (mtstravel): hehe 


[12:46 PM] wroot: sticky keys 

[12:47 PM] David: akrherz: I'm not sure what you mean 

[12:47 PM] wroot: it's acessibility options (hate them:))) 

[12:47 PM] slushpupie: I just shake the keyboard once and a while.. keyboard is clean 

and I get a snack! 

[12:47 PM] Todd (mtstravel): Well today was a nice unhealthy lunch at burger king 

[12:47 PM] Dawn: lol 

[12:47 PM] David: wroot: heh, my brother turned on mousekeys accidentally once 

[12:47 PM] David: (hit shift 5 times) 

[12:47 PM] Todd (mtstravel): $2.99 whoper value meals on Wed 

[12:47 PM] akrherz: david: most of us are looking for web based solutions that can 

only use port 443 or 80 

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[12:47 PM] wroot: today a user called (she has pressed Shift for 8 secs...) 

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[12:48 PM] wroot: i couldnt safe her 

[12:48 PM] David: akrherz: use apache's proxypass or something equivalent to point 

foo.com:80/http-bind to the http binding port 


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[12:48 PM] David: akrherz: that's how this groupchat is set up 

[12:49 PM] akrherz: david: ah cool, but the SSL stuff is what's currently being worked 

on 

[12:49 PM] David: that's for socket connections 

[12:49 PM] David: unrelated to what you want 

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[12:49 PM] David: https is already supported 


[12:49 PM] wroot: wow, users list is not fitting even on maximaized spark window 

[12:49 PM] Daniel: likewise, and correct me if i'm wrong or mistaken as to what's 

being asked, but with the zip release that was put out, you can just unpack sparkweb it 

wherever you want 

[12:49 PM] akrherz: thanks david, I'll start messing with sparkweb then, hehe 

[12:50 PM] wroot: i wonder how long all this Guests hangs there.. 




[12:51 PM] akrherz: david: ah, now I remember, I am desperate to come up with a 

replacement for Meebo, hehe. 

[12:51 PM] Todd (mtstravel): Since the window keeps auto scrolling on me..... Is there 

a release date on the horizon for the sparkweb plugin 

[12:51 PM] David: Todd: April 28th 

[12:52 PM] Todd (mtstravel): thanks 

[12:52 PM] wroot: winsrev, did you get my idea about "flashing" :)) 

[12:52 PM] David: Todd: you'll note that that's in the past... 

[12:52 PM] Todd (mtstravel): yes 

[12:52 PM] Todd (mtstravel): sarcasm is hard on chat 

[12:52 PM] Guest33: We have been very impressed with the new opefire enterpise 

plugins. We are ready to deploy to are call center but are wondering when the client 

admin plugin is due 

[12:52 PM] wroot: we should travel to the past 

[12:52 PM] David: Guest33: today 

[12:52 PM] Todd (mtstravel): so the one on the downloads page works fine with the 

3.5.1 version of OF

[12:52 PM] David: wroot: if by "the past" you mean "the sparkweb space on ignite", 

then yes ;) 


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