Types of Rapture (~9.1 MB) - Moriel Ministries

the wisest course.”
Is this how we decide It is up to an
individual’s feelings to determine what is
true or not. This is not wise or biblical. We
are not to lean on our own understanding;
we are to trust in God’s delivered word. Our
trust is not to be in men that prophesy, but
in the God of prophecy. This is an “everyman-does-what-is-right-in-his-own-eyes”
philosophy. It is promoting a prophetic
free-for-all. When Israel did this they were
misled by the false prophets. And what
were the false prophets saying Through
their dreams and visions they were telling
the people of Israel’s future.
Lets look at whom Bentley attributes
his influence from – ANGELS:
“Now let me talk about an angelic
experience with Emma. Twice Bob Jones
asked me about this angel that was in Kansas
City in 1980: ‘Todd, have you ever seen
the angel by the name of Emma’ he asked
me as if he expected that this angel was appearing
to me. Surprised, I said, ‘Bob, who
is Emma’ He told me that Emma was the
angel that helped birth and start the whole
prophetic movement in Kansas City in
the 1980s. She was a mothering type angel
that helped nurture the prophetic as it
broke out.’” HYPERLINK “http://www.
etpv.org/2003/angho.html” http://www.
etpv.org/2003/angho.html.
A “female” angel. There are none mentioned
in the Bible, not once. Every time
angels appeared they looked like men.
They are called sons of God, not sons and
daughters of God.
It is crucial to understand the roots
of this whole movement that first went
through the Vineyard churches through
John Wimber, then spread to the body of
Christ. To befriend Bob Jones (who is one
among many sordid characters he hangs
out with) is not good. Bob Jones telling
Bentley the prophetic movement was started
by a female angel may be more revealing
than one would first think.
Bentley has a view of the supernatural
that has crippled him from understanding
the simple truth from Scripture. So he has
replaced it with his own revelations and
supernatural experiences that exceed even
those of the apostles.
Bentley’s entire ministry is focused
on angels and false revelatory visions and
visitations; from this come the healings.
Bob Jones was a Vineyard minister
(one of the original Kansas City “prophets”).
Jones was removed from the Vineyard
for sexual impropriety. He had women
strip so they could “stand naked before
the Lord.” Two women came forward in
1991 and told Vineyard leaders that Jones
had used his prophetic authority to touch
and fondle them sexually. (Roy Rivenburg,
“A Question of Faith,” Los Angeles Times,
January 28, 1992, sec. El, p. 8.) Jones admitted
it and was removed from ministry.
While Jones appears repentant, in the
same time period he was prophesying that
Jesus told him that a certain portion of
the end-time church will be an immortal
end-time army.
Bentley says of Jones “My friend…Bob
Jones [is] a gifted, mature seer-prophet.”
Jones has been influential on Bentley and
this so-called miracle revival in Lakeland.
On Bob Jones’ Web site we read of him
being sick. (“Update on Bob Jones,” April
12, 2008.)
”We still need to have a fistula placed
in his arm in the event he should need dialysis
in the future. However, we believe the
Lord gave us a miracle and will continue to
heal the kidneys (sic) and totally restore his
health. He is gaining strength daily. We must
be good stewards of the miracle He gave us.
There were many long and exhausting
days due to effects of the chemicals used
to cleanse the bloodstream. Many times
Bob was ill and very weak after dialysis.
In the process of healing, he lost about 55
pounds, however his lungs are clear and
his vitals are normal.”
They ask “to pray for his kidney function
to increase.”
The most recent report: “Our last visit
to the kidney doctor was a great success.
Bob’s kidney function continues to improve;
the creatinine level dropped to 3.1
so the doctor removed the perm-cath from
his chest last Wednesday.” (May 6, 2008)
Why didn’t Jones go to Todd Bentley
and be instantly, miraculously healed, as
we hear others are Isn’t this what is taking
place at the Lakeland meetings The
answer should be obvious: Just like the
faith healers, when they are sick (and this
is serious) they go to a doctor, not to their
fellow gifted healers. They know better.
What does Bob Jones believe and
teach Follwing are just a few examples.
He had this to say about Joel’s army:
“They will move into things of the supernatural
that no one has ever moved in before.
Every miracle, sign and wonder that
has ever been in the Bible - they’ll move in
it consistently. They’ll move in the power
that Christ did. Every sign and wonder
that’s ever been will be many times in the
last days. They themselves will be that
generation that raised up to put death itself
underneath their feet and to glorify Christ
in every way. . .and the Church that is raising
up in the government will be the head
and the covering for them. So that that glorious
church might be revealed in the last
days because the Lord Jesus is worthy to
be lifted up by a church that has reached
the full maturity of the god-man!” (Visions
Point of Interest – Continued
& Revelations, Fall 1988.)
Jones describes his hands turning blue,
and then turning purple: “When that happens
that means you’ve got some incense
that’s gone up. You’ve got some intercession
that’s gone up that Papa’s saying yes to.”
Jones also states that his alleged healing
power came upon him when he was
struck by lightning:
”It was about ’76. A bolt of lightning. I
was inside, I didn’t have my wires grounded
in the basement down there, and I grabbed
ahold of the refrigerator, and lightning hit
the wires outside, and a great blue flame
came in. And a ball of fire danced all over
that basement, and didn’t hurt me. But from
that time forth my hands worked funny….
Anytime God is going to start a fire, he
starts it with lightning. And you can take a
little of that fire and impart it wherever it is
needed. And it will start a God’s fire” (Bob
Jones, Visions and Revelations, 1988.)
”Bob Jones was told that the general
level of prophetic revelation in the church
was about 65% accurate at this time. Some
are only about 10% accurate, a very few of
the most mature prophets are approaching
85% to 95% accuracy. Prophecy is increasing
in purity, but there is a still a long way
to go for those who walk in this ministry.
This is actually grace for the church now,
because 100% accuracy in this ministry
would bring a level of accountability to the
church which she is too immature to bear
at this time.” (Rick Joyner, “The Prophetic
Ministry,” Morningstar Prophetic Newsletter.
Vol. 3, No. 2, Page 2.)
This is probably the most dangerous of
his statements. He is saying that God gives
us false prophecy because we are immature,
unable to be accountable. It’s just like the
Devil to turn truth on its head. What about
the Old Testament prophets Did they not
have 100% accuracy in prophecy And so
when these “prophets” miss it (even 10%,
although it’s far more) his excuse is that
it’s God’s fault, not theirs.
Mike Bickle and Bob Jones relate the
story of an angel revealing that God would
appear to Bickle in the form of another
person named “Don” in a vision or in a
dream. Bickle said the vision eventually
took place, and part of its message was
to show him that “Jesus appears in thousands
of different faces to portray something,”
Bickle said, “He was trying to say,
‘I’m your friend, I am your familiar friend
and I’m going to show you all things so
you can move in the power of the Spirit’”
(Mike Bickle with Bob Jones, Visions and
Revelations, transcript, series of five tapes,
Fall,1988 p.53-60.)
“I am your familiar friend” may be
more like a familiar spirit, considering the
teachings that have come forth and the ac-
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