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[Deputy Brendan Howlin.] Questions— 14 February 2012. Written Answers Name of Body Name of appointee Date appointed/ reappointed Remuneration Received Civil Service Arbitration Mr Turlough O’Donnell, S.C. 1st July 2011. Re-appointment €786 per sitting Board (for the civil service, (Chair) was by Government the Defence Forces, the Mr Gerard Barry following agreement with €416 per sitting Gardaí and the teachers) the staff side in accordance Mr Tom Wall* with the terms of the €416 per sitting Mr George Maybury Conciliation and Arbitration €416 per sitting Scheme Mr Hugh O’Flaherty €416 per sitting *Note Mr. Wall who sits on the Arbitration Boards for the Civil Service and Teachers receives an annual retainer of €4,625 to cover 11 sitting days. Coast Guard Service 273. Deputy Michael McNamara asked the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform the date by which conveyance of the lands for the development of a new coast guard station at Doolin, County Clare, which has already been considerably delayed by the Office of the Chief State Solicitor, will be concluded; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [8023/12] Minister of State at the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (Deputy Brian Hayes): I would refer the Deputy to my reply to his question for written answer on 19 January 2012. The position remains that the Chief State Solicitor’s Office is in ongoing correspondence with the vendor’s solicitors to complete the legal formalities for the conveyance of the site, and with the solicitors for the owner of the sewage treatment plant, in relation to the Grant of Easement for connection to same. I can assure the Deputy that this matter is being afforded the highest priority. Flood Relief 274. Deputy Finian McGrath asked the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform if he will review a matter (details supplied) regarding flooding. [8040/12] Minister of State at the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform (Deputy Brian Hayes): As Minister of State with responsibility for the Office of Public Works (OPW), I can advise the Deputy that the OPW has no role or function in relation to the operation and maintenance of surface water drainage infrastructure. Under section 31 of the Water Services Act 2007, local authorities, are responsible for the operation and maintenance of wastewater infrastructure. The matter raised by the Deputy relates to inadequate surface water drainage following heavy rain and is appropriate to be addressed by Dublin City Council. I will forward a copy of this reply to Dublin City Council for their immediate attention. Public Sector Staff 275. Deputy Martin Ferris asked the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform the numbers of public servants in County Cavan who retired as part of the Croke Park early retirement scheme; if he will provide a breakdown of these numbers for gardaí, doctors, nurses, teachers, firemen and local authority service that is water and so on and by electoral area. [8129/12] 276. Deputy Martin Ferris asked the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform the numbers of public servants in County Kerry who retired as part of the Croke Park early retirement scheme; if he will provide a breakdown of these numbers for gardaí, doctors, nurses, teachers, firemen and local authority service that is water and so on and by electoral area. [8130/12] 442

Questions— 14 February 2012. Written Answers 279. Deputy Sean Fleming asked the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform if he will outline for each year from 2008 to 2015 the expected staff numbers in the public service at the end of each year; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [8419/12] 284. Deputy Stephen S. Donnelly asked the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform with regard to the early retirement scheme under which public servants have the option of retiring by the end of February 2012, the analysis that was done prior to the announcement of this scheme on the number of public servants that would avail of this regarding rank or class, and at what cost; if he will release this analysis; the estimate that was made of the necessity of replacing some of these immediately, and the cost involved; and if he will release any analysis documents on this; the measures that are in place to ensure that those retiring will not be rehired by the public sector as consultants. [8485/12] Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (Deputy Brendan Howlin): I propose to take Questions Nos. 275, 276, 279 and 284 together. Firstly, there is no generally available incentivised scheme of early retirement in operation at present in the public or civil service. Many of the retirements at this time are occurring in the normal course where an individual has reached retirement age. There are also cases where individuals are availing of “cost-neutral early retirement”, which allows retirement earlier than normal retirement age, but with an off-setting actuarial reduction applied to the individual’s lump sum and pension. When public service salaries were reduced in 2010, it was agreed by the then Government that persons retiring during a transitional or “grace” period would have their retirement benefits calculated on the basis of the previous payscale levels before the salary cut. That grace period will now expire on 29 February 2012. Persons retiring from 1 March 2012 onwards will have their retirement benefits calculated on the basis of their actual, reduced pay scale. Secondly, estimates for retirement numbers in the public sector and public service pay bill and pensions expenditure were based on the pattern of annual retirements where approximately 5,000 to 8,000 staff retire from the public service in any given year. The issue of potential rehiring costs was not considered. Thirdly, as I indicated in PQ No. 2468 last month, there is no prohibition on civil or public servants who have retired under normal circumstances from applying for a publicly advertised public service post for which they are suitably qualified. However, restrictions on further public service appointments apply to staff who opted for early retirement under the Incentivised Scheme for Early Retirement (ISER) as set out in Department of Finance Circular 12/09 (applying to Civil Service) and the Department of Health Circular 7/2010 of 1 November 2010 (applying to the Health Service Executive). From time to time, retired public servants are engaged by Departments for specific tasks or assignments. Such engagements are normally remunerated on a fee basis and provision exists for fees to be abated, where appropriate, by reference to pension payments. Fourthly, Public Service numbers for the years 2008-2012 are set out in the following table: Year Public Service Staff Numbers 2008 319,891 2009 310,277 2010 305,512 2011 297,000 (prov) 2012 294,000 (est) Policy decisions have not yet been taken with regard to numbers targets for 2013 and 2014. However, as published in the Public Service Reform Plan, the Government’s Public Service 443

Questions— 14 February 2012. <strong>Written</strong> <strong>Answers</strong><br />

279. Deputy Sean Fleming asked <strong>the</strong> Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform if he will<br />

outline for each year from 2008 to 2015 <strong>the</strong> expected staff numbers in <strong>the</strong> public service at <strong>the</strong><br />

end <strong>of</strong> each year; and if he will make a statement on <strong>the</strong> matter. [8419/12]<br />

284. Deputy Stephen S. Donnelly asked <strong>the</strong> Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform<br />

with regard to <strong>the</strong> early retirement scheme under which public servants have <strong>the</strong> option <strong>of</strong><br />

retiring by <strong>the</strong> end <strong>of</strong> February 2012, <strong>the</strong> analysis that was done prior to <strong>the</strong> announcement <strong>of</strong><br />

this scheme on <strong>the</strong> number <strong>of</strong> public servants that would avail <strong>of</strong> this regarding rank or class,<br />

and at what cost; if he will release this analysis; <strong>the</strong> estimate that was made <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> necessity <strong>of</strong><br />

replacing some <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>se immediately, and <strong>the</strong> cost involved; and if he will release any analysis<br />

documents on this; <strong>the</strong> measures that are in place to ensure that those retiring will not be<br />

rehired by <strong>the</strong> public sector as consultants. [8485/12]<br />

Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform (Deputy Brendan Howlin): I propose to take<br />

Questions Nos. 275, 276, 279 and 284 toge<strong>the</strong>r.<br />

Firstly, <strong>the</strong>re is no generally available incentivised scheme <strong>of</strong> early retirement in operation<br />

at present in <strong>the</strong> public or civil service. Many <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> retirements at this time are occurring in<br />

<strong>the</strong> normal course where an individual has reached retirement age. There are also cases where<br />

individuals are availing <strong>of</strong> “cost-neutral early retirement”, which allows retirement earlier than<br />

normal retirement age, but with an <strong>of</strong>f-setting actuarial reduction applied to <strong>the</strong> individual’s<br />

lump sum and pension.<br />

When public service salaries were reduced in 2010, it was agreed by <strong>the</strong> <strong>the</strong>n Government<br />

that persons retiring during a transitional or “grace” period would have <strong>the</strong>ir retirement<br />

benefits calculated on <strong>the</strong> basis <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> previous payscale levels before <strong>the</strong> salary cut. That grace<br />

period will now expire on 29 February 2012. Persons retiring from 1 March 2012 onwards will<br />

have <strong>the</strong>ir retirement benefits calculated on <strong>the</strong> basis <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir actual, reduced pay scale.<br />

Secondly, estimates for retirement numbers in <strong>the</strong> public sector and public service pay bill<br />

and pensions expenditure were based on <strong>the</strong> pattern <strong>of</strong> annual retirements where approximately<br />

5,000 to 8,000 staff retire from <strong>the</strong> public service in any given year. The issue <strong>of</strong> potential<br />

rehiring costs was not considered.<br />

Thirdly, as I indicated in PQ No. 2468 last month, <strong>the</strong>re is no prohibition on civil or public<br />

servants who have retired under normal circumstances from applying for a publicly advertised<br />

public service post for which <strong>the</strong>y are suitably qualified. However, restrictions on fur<strong>the</strong>r public<br />

service appointments apply to staff who opted for early retirement under <strong>the</strong> Incentivised<br />

Scheme for Early Retirement (ISER) as set out in Department <strong>of</strong> Finance Circular 12/09<br />

(applying to Civil Service) and <strong>the</strong> Department <strong>of</strong> Health Circular 7/2010 <strong>of</strong> 1 November 2010<br />

(applying to <strong>the</strong> Health Service Executive).<br />

From time to time, retired public servants are engaged by Departments for specific tasks or<br />

assignments. Such engagements are normally remunerated on a fee basis and provision exists<br />

for fees to be abated, where appropriate, by reference to pension payments.<br />

Fourthly, Public Service numbers for <strong>the</strong> years 2008-2012 are set out in <strong>the</strong> following table:<br />

Year<br />

Public Service Staff Numbers<br />

2008 319,891<br />

2009 310,277<br />

2010 305,512<br />

2011 297,000 (prov)<br />

2012 294,000 (est)<br />

Policy decisions have not yet been taken with regard to numbers targets for 2013 and 2014.<br />

However, as published in <strong>the</strong> Public Service Reform Plan, <strong>the</strong> Government’s Public Service<br />

443

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