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<strong>NALC</strong> Arbitration Advocate Page 2<br />

Volume 2, Issue 2 May 1998<br />

156#. 052'%6145 TTT<br />

(continued from page 1)<br />

commonly in discipline cases—they<br />

are no different from any other<br />

manager. This bears repeating:<br />

<strong>Postal</strong> inspectors have no special<br />

status in the grievance procedure or<br />

arbitration. Rather they are, for all<br />

intents and purposes, the same as<br />

other postal supervisors and managers.<br />

For advocates and other union<br />

representatives, this means that<br />

postal inspectors may be interviewed<br />

prior to arbitration, and in<br />

fact at any time during the processing<br />

of the grievance. <strong>Postal</strong> inspectors<br />

have no special rights to avoid<br />

interviews with investigating union<br />

representatives even though they<br />

often attempt to resist questioning<br />

until they are called to testify at arbitration.<br />

Moreover, management may<br />

not use the investigative memorandum<br />

as a shield against further inquiry<br />

into the detailed facts of the<br />

investigation. The investigative<br />

memorandum is a hearsay statement—an<br />

out-of-hearing statement<br />

that certain material facts are true.<br />

The union has the right to examine<br />

the facts underlying hearsay statements,<br />

or to insist that such statements<br />

either be excluded from the<br />

hearing or be given very little<br />

weight. Like any hearsay statement,<br />

an investigative memorandum<br />

is inherently unreliable as evidence<br />

unless it is corroborated by<br />

other, reliable evidence.<br />

Typically a postal inspector testifies<br />

at an arbitration hearing to<br />

provide the corroboration for the<br />

investigative memorandum. However,<br />

this testimony comes very late<br />

in the grievance process and affords<br />

union advocates no opportunity<br />

to prepare before the hearing.<br />

<strong>NALC</strong> representatives at earlier<br />

stages of the grievance procedure<br />

also have the right to examine the<br />

facts that stand behind the investigative<br />

memorandum. So postal<br />

inspectors must be made available<br />

for interviews, and must answer all<br />

potentially relevant questions put<br />

to them by shop stewards, advocates<br />

and other union representatives.<br />

<strong>NALC</strong> representatives also<br />

have the right to examine the notes<br />

made by postal inspectors during<br />

the course of their investigations.<br />

For instance,<br />

the representative<br />

may ask a<br />

postal inspector<br />

for all notes<br />

made in an investigation,<br />

including<br />

notes<br />

of interviews<br />

with witnesses.<br />

Furthermore,<br />

inspectors must<br />

reveal the<br />

names of people<br />

with whom<br />

they spoke and what those people<br />

said even if this information has not<br />

been recorded in the IM or in notes.<br />

Any of these original sources may<br />

provide information which is helpful<br />

to a grievant although it was excluded<br />

from or “filtered” by the investigative<br />

memorandum .<br />

Many union representatives, especially<br />

shops stewards, may be<br />

surprised to learn that they have<br />

the right to interview postal inspectors.<br />

However, this right is well established<br />

in regional arbitration<br />

precedent and in grievance settlements<br />

at the national level.<br />

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7.'5<br />

In a 1987 case decided by regional<br />

Arbitrator Joseph F. Gentile,<br />

a letter carrier was discharged for<br />

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allegedly removing marked quarters<br />

from test letters. Two postal<br />

inspectors had prepared the test<br />

mailing. <strong>NALC</strong> representatives attempted<br />

to interview the postal inspectors<br />

but were refused at each<br />

step of the grievance procedure. A<br />

second grievance filed to protest<br />

that refusal. During the discussion<br />

of the second grievance, the postmaster<br />

claimed that he had no jurisdiction<br />

over postal inspectors, and<br />

the Step 3 answer stated that Inspection<br />

Service<br />

investigative<br />

techniques<br />

“are not subject<br />

to automatic<br />

disclosure.”<br />

The<br />

two grievances<br />

were combined<br />

for hearing.<br />

Arbitrator<br />

Gentile agreed<br />

to hear the<br />

procedural issue<br />

first. The union argued that the<br />

<strong>Postal</strong> Service violated several sections<br />

of the National Agreement<br />

when it refused to make the postal<br />

inspectors available for the interview:<br />

♦ Article 15, Section 2, Step 2(d)<br />

requires the employer to “make a<br />

full and detailed statement of facts<br />

and contractual provisions relied<br />

upon.”<br />

♦ Article 17, Section 3 states,<br />

“The . . . Union representative<br />

properly certified in accordance<br />

with Section 2 above may request<br />

and shall obtain access through the<br />

appropriate supervisor to review<br />

the documents, files and otherrecords<br />

necessary for processing a<br />

grievance or determining if a<br />

grievance exists and shall have the<br />

right to interview the aggrieved<br />

employee(s), supervisor and wit-<br />

(Continued on page 3)

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