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Episode 7: How to Survive and Thrive<br />
Ty: It’s a stacked deck.<br />
Jason Vale: It sure was and that’s when <strong>the</strong>y got a temporary<br />
injunction against me and <strong>the</strong> injunction was not to sell—<strong>the</strong> whole crux<br />
of it was <strong>the</strong>y said you can’t sell seeds—at first <strong>the</strong>y were saying you<br />
can’t sell <strong>the</strong>m as a cure. You can’t sell <strong>the</strong>m according to FDA law,<br />
which only means I can’t sell <strong>the</strong>m as a cure. It doesn’t mean I can’t sell<br />
<strong>the</strong>m, period, because <strong>the</strong>n I can’t have <strong>the</strong>m in a grocery store.<br />
Ty: You can’t say that <strong>the</strong>y cure anything.<br />
Jason Vale: Right.<br />
Ty: Okay.<br />
Jason Vale: In <strong>the</strong> end of <strong>the</strong>m adjusting and marking things down and<br />
didacting things from <strong>the</strong> injunction it read a lot more to say you can’t<br />
sell seeds period. And this is what I said, you can’t tell me I can’t sell<br />
seeds. You can’t tell me I can’t sell apples because that’s <strong>the</strong> same<br />
thing, isn’t it And <strong>the</strong>y stuck to that and <strong>the</strong> judge—it was a very—it<br />
was a stacked trial. Actually I had—<strong>the</strong>n I had a permanent injunction<br />
against me and <strong>the</strong>y said I violated both but I was saying, listen, you got<br />
to prove that I sold <strong>the</strong>m as a cure, which I stopped. I didn’t do that<br />
anymore. I told people—I gave <strong>the</strong> FDA warning at <strong>the</strong> bottom and I<br />
also told people it was third party information. And I just said, I just<br />
never told people its going to cure you. I would never say that to people<br />
even if it does. So I had a trial basically. At <strong>the</strong> initial hearing I left. I<br />
actually was on my way but a bunch of friends who were all dressed up,<br />
and I just—I’m not kidding. This sounds weird. But a flock of birds—like<br />
as I’m headed this way a flock of birds came like right over <strong>the</strong> cover<br />
going this way. And I was like I’m sorry. I’m not superstitious like that but<br />
I was just like I am not going. I was like this has got to be sign that I’m<br />
not going. Anyway, I left. I went to my o<strong>the</strong>r apartment for three months.<br />
They were looking for me and I was talking to <strong>the</strong> marshalls and finally I<br />
turned myself in. And <strong>the</strong>re was a million dollar bail <strong>the</strong>y gave me.<br />
Ty: A million dollars<br />
Jason Vale: Yeah, 883 thousand dollars. I almost won <strong>the</strong> trial. I<br />
actually was pro se where my lawyer who was telling me, oh, I’ll get you<br />
eight years. What do you mean you’ll get me eight years This is<br />
contempt of court. Contempt of court is like a six month thing at <strong>the</strong><br />
most if you’re guilty. I wasn’t even guilty and <strong>the</strong>y’re saying—so it was a<br />
trial but <strong>the</strong>re was no statutory maximum and no minimum. So it’s a<br />
very—<strong>the</strong>y were saying, hey, we got 20 years and you know. And I<br />
said, listen, if I’m going to go to prison its going to be I’m doing my own<br />
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