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Touch of Evil<br />

273<br />

To me, I thought a lot about the childlike innocence that Jim Henson and<br />

Orson had. Certainly, they’re both iconoclasts, but in that there’s this childlike<br />

innocence in both of them, and that struck me. I don’t think it has any<br />

bearing on Touch of Evil, but it struck me that two great men like that had<br />

that same kind of feeling.<br />

We were talking about people who were naturals for big characters.<br />

Welles was lucky in the fact that he was always the most forceful, charismatic<br />

guy in the room. He was the one who could drive the train.<br />

But I know you had disagreements with Marlon Brando on <strong>The</strong> Score.<br />

What did you learn from that? Is there something that you took from<br />

that experience about dealing with big personalities on the set?<br />

Oz: Yeah, I learned how to be a better director. I learned that even big<br />

personalities like Marlon were scared, and I should’ve nourished them,<br />

that Marlon needed support and I was trying to be ultrastrong because I<br />

wouldn’t let him do in my movie what he did in <strong>The</strong> Island of Dr. Moreau. I<br />

was not going to let him do that. He tried but I stopped him. Unfortunately,<br />

I stopped him in a way that was adversarial instead of supportive. I certainly<br />

learned from my mistakes from Marlon there. Not to say that he was the<br />

nicest guy in the world. [laughs]<br />

Yeah, we’re saying big personalities and all that that implies. . . .<br />

Oz: Nevertheless, he taught me that even the biggest of actors are always<br />

scared. I learned to be more supportive as a director.<br />

Do you think, and we’re getting a tad off topic, but do you think ultimately<br />

that served the movie, that tension?<br />

Oz: No, he wouldn’t let me really direct him. I think it was one scene he let<br />

me direct him. I had to really make choices; I had to have different camera<br />

angles and make the choices in editing. <strong>That</strong>’s what I had to do. Thank God<br />

De Niro was there. Bob was a tremendous help. I unfortunately kinda had to<br />

break Brando down. I mean, in the sense of, “Stop playing a character.”<br />

I went over to Marlon during the scene with Bob and I said, “Gee, I really<br />

like that.” I knew he couldn’t give a shit what I thought, and he said, “I don’t

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