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Touch of Evil<br />

269<br />

thing with DPs is you’ve got to see their eyes, and the eye light and everything.<br />

Orson just said, “Fuck that,” because of economics, I’m sure. He had people in<br />

complete blackness. I was saying to Rob Hahn, “Let’s go for that, let’s have dark<br />

and light,” which Rob does very well anyway, but to really push it as much as<br />

possible with the knowledge that we can’t because it’s color. It’s about not being<br />

afraid of taking big chances, not worrying about seeing people’s faces.<br />

Tell me about your favorite scene.<br />

Oz: <strong>My</strong> favorite scene, without question, is one of the five-minute scenes.<br />

It’s when they’re in the room and there’s about eight people. Quinlan is<br />

there, and they’re talking to the Mexican kid. <strong>The</strong> Mexican kid is supposedly<br />

being used by this woman, and then Vargas goes in and sees the<br />

shoebox in the bathroom.<br />

<strong>That</strong> whole five-minute scene is absolutely amazing to me. Trying to<br />

block eight people in a room with all the dark and light, the depth, and the<br />

foreground, the background, the close-ups, the wide shots, and shooting<br />

up. I mean just one shot, five minutes. Now, it’s not unusual that there’s one<br />

shot that’s five minutes. I mean, Christ, Kubrick did a ten-minute shot, and<br />

Orson did another five-minute shot, in the same room the second time we<br />

were there. <strong>That</strong> is the most staggering scene to me. I can’t get over how he<br />

had to, economically, you know. He couldn’t keep on cutting and having a<br />

new deal and shooting in a different direction and relighting. He just kept<br />

the camera steady and moved everybody around and created his own closeups<br />

and wide shots. It was fantastic.<br />

Welles, in talking about his style and vision, said that editing was the<br />

most important element. He goes into this great hyperbole about how<br />

directing itself is “not an art, or at most an art for a minute a day.”<br />

Oz: I think he’s right, except if he was here I’d disagree with him. Look at<br />

what he did in those two scenes. You’ve got to have those scenes blocked. In<br />

a way, he’s editing as he’s shooting. He edited that five minutes because he<br />

created his own close-ups, his own wide shots, his own mediums, his twoshots,<br />

his eight-shots. So, in a way, it was editing. He didn’t just cut the film.<br />

He moved people around to create the editing as he’s shooting it. Just the<br />

fact that the scene exists belies what he says.

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