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fourteen-course meal composed entirely of desserts.” What do you<br />

suppose sparked those diverse emotional responses?<br />

Smith: <strong>That</strong> film had the possibility layered throughout the movie, that if<br />

these dudes in Bumblefuck, Texas—at that point I didn’t know Austin was a<br />

cultural fuckin’ epicenter—could make a movie, I could.<br />

Linklater is one of the few directors who have been able to harvest a<br />

local film scene. He’s stayed in Austin. When you and I first met and<br />

talked years ago, you talked about wanting to do the same thing for<br />

New Jersey. But what obstacles exist for directors wanting to film in<br />

their home state and nurture a film production industry?<br />

Smith: New Jersey is so close to New York that most people just gravitate<br />

there. Who would want to hang out in Red Bank, New Jersey, when an hour<br />

away they could just go to Manhattan, where there’s a much bigger film center?<br />

Also, I was kind of a victim of my own success at a very early age. It was<br />

impossible to get people to work for nothing after a certain point, because<br />

we were backed by Miramax, and Miramax is backed by Disney. So it was<br />

kind of like, “Hey, man, can you come in and pitch in, give it the old college<br />

try, put on a show?” And at a certain point, people would just be like, “Dude,<br />

you have Miramax money. Clearly you can afford to pay people.”<br />

I also didn’t live in a college town, so I wasn’t surrounded by young energetic<br />

zeal. Those were the kinds of hurdles for me and my group. Some movies<br />

just completely dragged us out of state. Mallrats was cheaper to shoot in<br />

Minnesota, so said the studio. So off to Minnesota we went. With Clerks<br />

nobody gave a shit, nobody knew who we were, and Chasing Amy was following<br />

the failure of Mallrats. So we’d been pretty written off at that point.<br />

<strong>The</strong>re was no expectation, and we were so low-budget that we could stay in<br />

our hometown and shoot the movie. When we get to Dogma, ten million<br />

bucks, suddenly we can’t stay in New Jersey because to shoot union would<br />

have been more expensive in Jersey. So if we go out to Pittsburgh, or western<br />

Pennsylvania, it’s not nearly as expensive, and you could shoot nonunion.<br />

Both you and Linklater have used nonprofessional or first-time actors,<br />

and for your second films you both worked with professional actors.<br />

What are the benefits of both?

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