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Persona<br />

179<br />

After Persona, I began to watch the other films, films like <strong>The</strong> Silence,<br />

Through a Glass Darkly, and Hour of the Wolf. This whole, incredible body<br />

of work was very important to me.<br />

I think film allows for tremendous exploration. It’s made me an artist in a<br />

completely uncompromised way, a person who tests the limits of the form.<br />

It’s been said that the movie is not only a deconstruction of itself, but<br />

also Bergman’s myth—that he had become sort of this stagey, mythic<br />

director. <strong>The</strong> New York Times reviewer wrote that it added to his myth<br />

and was “a film about loneliness.” In breaking form, he seems to build<br />

his ivory tower as an artist. What do you think his intentions were?<br />

Egoyan: <strong>The</strong> whole notion of indulgence is very interesting. It comes up a<br />

lot in the movie—how indulgent the actress seems to be. At one point, the<br />

director of the hospital calls her game and says that it must be very nice to<br />

be an actress. But this is a performance as well and as an audience member,<br />

you also have control over this. You become really exasperated with her,<br />

and yet it’s very compelling. In a way, maybe Bergman was reflecting on<br />

that fact.<br />

<strong>The</strong> film is wildly pretentious at moments because it’s presenting these​<br />

images without any clarification. Like I said, there are really strong and almost<br />

laughably iconographic moments—like the crucifixion—that really have no<br />

rational explanation, yet they sweep you away with their power. <strong>The</strong> same is<br />

true of the atonal, fractured score at the beginning—the whole beginning is<br />

an affront, and yet it does have this cumulative sense of purpose.<br />

I think the role of storytellers and the language they use is one of the<br />

latent themes of the film. With the incredible erotic monologue, the orgy<br />

that is described at a certain point—you’re so aware of the process of the<br />

story being told. A lot of shots are of Liv Ullmann listening. It made me<br />

really aware of the device of the listener, the person who is encountering<br />

the story. A focus on that person is as compelling as the person who is<br />

actually speaking.<br />

<strong>The</strong>re’s a great passage in the Susan Sontag piece. She writes about a<br />

reading of the film as a “parable of the predatory demonic energies of<br />

the artist, incorrigibly scavenging life for raw material.” It’s like that

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