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172 Pete Docter<br />

Tatum O’Neal was older than two and a half, but even so, the amount of<br />

depth of performance that she’s able to pull off is pretty astounding.<br />

But it sounds like your directing bag of tricks is not that different<br />

because by most accounts, she hated filming this.<br />

Docter: Oh, really?<br />

Bogdanovich would bribe her: “I’ll buy you shoes if you just get<br />

through this scene, I’ll give you twenty dollars if you just get through<br />

this scene.” On that level, she was really getting into the shyster spirit<br />

of the character.<br />

Docter: Yeah that’s true. It seems like, and to some degree this is true even<br />

of adult actors, but they’re going along with you. Basically the whole thing<br />

about acting is kind of tricking either the actor or yourself (if you’re acting)<br />

into experiencing these emotions that hopefully read as truthful.<br />

With kids, especially, you have to be very clever about what you’re making<br />

them do. <strong>The</strong>y think they’re doing this for one reason, but for the film<br />

it’s actually giving what you need for the story.<br />

Frank Marshall, the associate producer of Paper Moon, says Bogdanovich<br />

was “able to achieve a movie that is touching but not sentimental<br />

and funny but without using slapstick.” As the viewer, how does<br />

it achieve that for you?<br />

Docter: It was true to the characters. <strong>That</strong>’s what I really admire about<br />

that film and the school of films we’ve be talking about too. It wasn’t about<br />

gratuitous whacking people in the head with a two-by-four. It was funny<br />

because the moments were so truthful, and I recognized them as moments<br />

in my own life. Not literally, but in some relatable way. <strong>The</strong>re are other films<br />

that do this, of course. I saw <strong>The</strong> Station Agent, which I think does the same<br />

thing. It’s hilarious, but doesn’t resort to slapstick or gags. It’s about how<br />

characters react and the truthfulness of the characters.<br />

I know having done a very minimal amount of improv in comedy<br />

classes as an actor, just to try to know more about how it goes on. <strong>The</strong>y<br />

say the mistake that most people in comedy make is they try to be funny.<br />

Really the humor comes out when you’re not trying to be funny, when

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