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42 (Interjection) Speaker from the crowd: Mulizungumza kwamba first come fist served, and I’ve not talked. Nasema hiyo ni constitution of Kenya review (Interjection). Hatujafuata sheria ile tulizungumza mbeleni. Com. Wanjiku: (Speaks in Kikuyu) Speaker: Patrick Lumumba Com. Wanjiku: Patrick Lumumba, (she speaks in Kikuyu) just be patient. Because we are actually going according to the list. There was only one person we gave preference,- the young man who was sitting here- The one who was disabled. Otherwise the rest of the list (she speaks in kikuyu). Okay, Owen Murima, John Kungu, Amos Wainaina,-he’s not here. John Gathoro, John Machege,- you are there- no. Mukungi Joseph, Patrick Mwagu, Patrick Mwangi, David (not clear),-no. Peter guchio, Karagwe Paul, Joseph Njogu, Simon Gatheiya,-you are there- Okay, Simon Njuguna, Isaac Njoroge, Gacheru Paul, Muharu Njoroge, Kimani Gitau, Maina Ng’ang’a, Lilian Karanja,- you are there- Okay Essau Esther Muraga, Joseph Kahugu, Mary Wamaitha, George Wainaina, sorry, George Mwangi, George Maina Kihara, George Thiong’o, Josiah Mwangi, John Maina Mwetha, Patrick Ngugi, Nyokabi Wanyeki, Githu (not clear), Samwel Njoroge, james Mburu, Stanley Wainaina, David Mungai, Loise Gakure, Paul (Unclear) Njoroge, Benson Wangegi, Uruni Ng’ang’a-(she speaks in Kikuyu), Mary Mumbi, Elizabeth Wangari, Michael wa Macharia. Okay, Geofrey Njoki, Mary Wanjiru, Ngunjiri Paul, Reverend Father Gerry,- I think they gave you an opportunity- sorry Lumumba there were two people. Susan Jane, Doctor Gerry Mathengi, Doctor Raphael Mathenge, Peter Kiguthia, Peter Njoroge, Peter Kamau, Patrick Njoroge, Joseph Njoroge, Eva Njoroge, Dominic Njuguna, Paul muiruri, John Ngugi, Margaret Muthoni,- Umeandika mara mbili?- John Maina Njoroge,-you are there- Lucia Jane Ng’ang’a, (Interjection). Com. Wanjiku: No. Maybe what they mean is that they are not going to speak Speaker: They are no going to speak? (speaks in Kikuyu) Com. Wanjiku: (Speaks in Kikuyu). Then you should be on the list. There is somebody called Lorodo, Lorodo, are you there? (Speaks in Kikuyu). Okay, Samwel Ngethe, Allan Wachira, - you are there-Samwel Gethani Kigia, - you are
43 there-Thomano Kiaire, Martha Nyakio, uwe hau? Eha? Neroka? Okay. Doctor Kuria Methu, George Kariuki, Kamau Kimani, Beatrice Wambura, ee hau? Okay thank you. James Ngethe, George Kimani, Peter K. Mwangi, Paul Kamau, Reverend Samwel Gethainya, Samwel Wambura, David Mwihia, Ben Wangari, Lydia Nduta, Charles Maina, and Gabriel Kiarie. Now we can continue, so we name…(speaks in kikuyu). Okay, Peter Kihio, Kimuyu…ooh! Nowe…(speaks in Kikuyu), thank you very much. Simon Njabiru? Gathai Okay. Simon: MaCommissioner wetu…(interjection) Com. Wanjiku: By the way, where is Lumumba? … Did you put your name down? (Interjection) Com. Wanjiku: Excuse me, if you were the first team, (Speaks in Kikuyu). Okay excuse me (speaks again in Kikuyu). Com. Wambua Kiongo Mwangi, where is Wilson Mburu Njuguna? He is there. Paul Kamau Gichina, then follow that order please. Tuanze na Kiongo Mwangi, Paul Njuguna, halafu afuatiwe na Paul kamau Muchina. Kiongo Mwangi: I am Kiongo Mwangi by name, a Kenyan citizen, very simple and patriotic, and I’m a talker and joker by profession. I am going to be very quick indeed; and specifically I’ll talk along these areas: • Education ♦ Separation of powers ♦ Presidency ♦ Political parties ♦ Legislature ♦ The process that should be followed while changing the constitution. Education: the 8-4-4 system does not work. For example, after the first 8years and then the second 4 years of secondary education, - you see that is where we get all the people, to go to the universities, to join the police force, agriculture colleges and what have you.- So, instead of having that 8-4-4, it should be scrapped and then be replaced with the older system, which was 7-4-2-3. So that, once the scholars have finished after the seven years of primary school course, we can have the second lot going to the form four. Some to be admitted there to join some sectors, others to go for the A-Levels, and there after, the final ones to go for the three years university education.
Page 1 and 2: CONSTITUTION OF KENYA REVIEW COMMIS
Page 3 and 4: 3 Roselyne Nyamato - Program Office
Page 5 and 6: 5 (Interjection) Kwa hivyo tungelip
Page 7 and 8: 7 Yangu ya mwisho ni hii habari ya
Page 9 and 10: 9 control the use of land. The gove
Page 11 and 12: 11 Answer: Eee, aliniambia tu niwap
Page 13 and 14: 13 Gachomba: Okay, haya maoni natoa
Page 15 and 16: 15 Ni makosa makubwa sana. Kwa saba
Page 17 and 18: 17 administration, for it has prove
Page 19 and 20: 19 Third, it’s about the people w
Page 21 and 22: 21 (Translation is done in Kikuyu).
Page 23 and 24: 23 Haya, ile jambo lingine nilikuwa
Page 25 and 26: 25 Com. Wambua: Okay, twendelee sas
Page 27 and 28: 27 Administration: ………… (Co
Page 29 and 30: 29 come up with conclusive ideas. F
Page 31 and 32: 31 Com. Wanjiku: Thank you very muc
Page 33 and 34: 33 chake. Nafikiria nitafikia hapo,
Page 35 and 36: 35 maruna matari miga noria magerer
Page 37 and 38: 37 Then we come to Judiciary: ♦ J
Page 39 and 40: 39 kulingana na vile tunataka,- zet
Page 41: 41 David Macharia: I think what the
Page 45 and 46: 45 Interjection from Com. Wanjiku:
Page 47 and 48: 47 naona. Lakini nyinyi wenyewe mfi
Page 49 and 50: 49 Interjection. Com. Wanjiku: tafa
Page 51 and 52: 51 walichaguliwa ma- D.O na ma-Chie
Page 53 and 54: 53 But they were not, - it was not
Page 55 and 56: 55 credible, people with good integ
Page 57 and 58: 57 Corruption nio niyagerero kunino
Page 59 and 60: 59 Kwa kuhesabu, (inaudible) hapa n
Page 61 and 62: 61 Chairman to be elected by the ma
Page 63 and 64: 63 Another speaker: (repitation. It
Page 65 and 66: 65 Kama anasaidiwa nanjia mzuri…
Page 67 and 68: 67 wanalingana na serikali. Sio ati
Page 69 and 70: 69 Councilor: Karibu sana… karibu
Page 71 and 72: 71 be disciplined because of bad be
Page 73 and 74: 73 Ya mwisho, mimi ningeuliza barab
Page 75: 75 Meeting ended at 5.30 p.m. &&&&&

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