Conversation Transcript - Ignite Realtime

Conversation Transcript 

Participants: 42 

Start Date: May 2, 2007 

Duration: 1 h, 13 min 

Message Count: 193 

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[12:01 PM] Francisco2: hi 

[12:02 PM] stealth111: hello 

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[12:03 PM] francisco: 

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[12:03 PM] Matt: hello all 

[12:03 PM] stealth111: morning derek! 

[12:03 PM] Derek: hello all 

[12:03 PM] Guest203: hi all 

[12:04 PM] Derek: morning 

[12:04 PM] stealth111: morning matt! 

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[12:04 PM] Matt: gato: you surfaced from the clustering dungeon :) 

[12:04 PM] Gato: LOL 

[12:04 PM] Gato: I went out to take some fresh air 

[12:05 PM] guus: "clustering D&D", a whole new RPG concept... 

[12:05 PM] stealth111: derek: did you get my updated post about the 2 escapable 

names problems in spark? ( in chat windows, and when mousing over a user) 

[12:05 PM] Derek: hi stealth 

[12:05 PM] Derek: i did 

[12:06 PM] Derek: will need to create an issue for that 

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[12:06 PM] Francisco2: I think there is one I will look for it 

[12:06 PM] stealth111: ok ;) 





[12:07 PM] tom: Hi 



[12:08 PM] stealth111: I just imported 300 users into openfire using the user service 

plugin, is there ANY easier way to now sort those people into groups WITHOUT having 

to manually type each user name in the groups area and clicking on add each time?? 

maybe a BROWSE button to select chunks of users?? or ANY other way?? 

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[12:08 PM] guus: gato, did you know that if you add plugin database update scripts, 

and the current database version is lower than the version configured in plugin.xml, 

only one increment is executed? (even if there are more available). 

[12:09 PM] guus: no big issue, but hey... 

[12:09 PM] tom (ddman@jivesoftware.com/Pandion) has joined the room 

[12:09 PM] Guest9: Hello, I am trying to install Spark on Unbuntu linux. I basically 

don't know the command to install it now that I have it untarred. Is there a command 

line thing I could run to get it installed? 

Here's the thread I started about it: 

http://www.igniterealtime.org/forum/thread.jspa?threadID=26267 

[12:09 PM] Gato: guus - I have no idea of that one. I will check the code now 



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[12:10 PM] dan: I've seen references on some old jivesoftware pages to a Sparkplug 

repository, but the link redirects to igniterealtime's home page. Is this repository still 

around? 


[12:11 PM] Derek: brb guys 

[12:11 PM] Derek: testing something out 

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[12:11 PM] Greg: hi everyone 

[12:11 PM] stealth111: hi! 

[12:11 PM] dan: Hi 

[12:11 PM] clp207: Hey All, Openfire crashes everytime I try to select a Timestamp 

value from Oracle 9i Lite Database. 

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[12:12 PM] Francisco2: derek, stealth111 this is the created issue 

http://www.igniterealtime.org/issues/browse/SPARK-575 

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[12:13 PM] Gastón: clp207 - is the process dying? 


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[12:14 PM] clp207: I get an EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION form the JVM 


[12:14 PM] stealth111: thx francisco2, I would assume this also covers it in the chat 

sessions as well? 

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[12:14 PM] wroot: hi 

[12:14 PM] clp207: and have to restart openfire 

[12:14 PM] stealth111: hi 

[12:14 PM] wroot: what is this room Espanol? :) 

[12:14 PM] stealth111: hehe 


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[12:15 PM] Francisco2: stealth111, we can put it explicit 

[12:15 PM] stealth111: ok 

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[12:16 PM] wroot: have found this yestarday http://wildfiregames.com sounds so 

familiar :) 


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[12:16 PM] dan: Hi everyone. I've seen references on some old jivesoftware pages to 

a public Sparkplug repository, but the link is no good. Is this repository still around? 


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[12:18 PM] Gastón: clp207 - so the process is not dying. Could you post the error you 

see in the log file? I would need the entire stack trace 

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[12:19 PM] Guest265: hi matt 

[12:19 PM] clp207: it's pretty big to post into the chat 


[12:20 PM] Gato: clp207 - just post the first 10 lines of the stack trace 

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[12:20 PM] Gato: Guus - from the code I cannot see why the server would only update 

one version and not run all the upgrade scripts 

[12:20 PM] Gato: // Run all upgrade scripts until we're up to the latest schema. 

for (int i = currentVersion + 1; i

edu.psu.arl.MFSPlugin.queryMFSDatabase(Ledu/psu/arl/Request;)Ledu/psu/arl/Result; 

+66 

j 

edu.psu.arl.MFSPlugin.getServiceRequestInfo(Ljava/lang/String;)Ledu/psu/arl/Result;+ 

33 

j edu.psu.arl.MFSPlugin.processMessage(Lorg/xmpp/packet/Message;)V+282 

j edu.psu.arl.MFSPlugin.processPacket(Lorg/xmpp/packet/Packet;)V+54 

[12:21 PM] Gato: Guus - in fact, we are using the same code for server upgrades. 

plugins and server upgrade scripts are run using the same code 

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[12:22 PM] Gato: clp207 - what is that? :) 

[12:22 PM] Gato: clp207 - check in the logs/error.log file for the exception and its 

stack trace 

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[12:22 PM] clp207: haha, basically, the call crashes the jvm, and that's part of the file 

that get's generated 



[12:22 PM] guus: gato: ok, nevermind, maybe it's something in my scripts. 



[12:23 PM] guus: I'm modifying the first script to upgrade to the latest version anyway 

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[12:23 PM] Guest495: ques : does wildfire supports timing-out of published items ? 

[12:23 PM] clp207: the file gets created i the bin dir, no error is logged in the error.log 

file 


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[12:24 PM] Gato: clp207 - so the process is dying. In that case which JVM version are 

you using? OS version? JDBC driver version? 

[12:24 PM] jchittoda: can anyone answer my ques ? 

[12:24 PM] jchittoda: ques : does wildfire supports timing-out of published items ? 

[12:25 PM] jchittoda: ques : does wildfire supports timing-out of published items ? 

[12:25 PM] stealth111: I just imported 300 users into openfire using the user service 

plugin, is there ANY easier way to now sort those people into groups WITHOUT having 

to manually type each user name in the groups area and clicking on add each time?? 

maybe a BROWSE button to select chunks of users?? or ANY other way?? 

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[12:26 PM] Matt: stealth111 are you just re-pasting that question? heh. You could 

write some database scripts to set group data but I don't think there are any other UI 

options than what you're seeing 

[12:26 PM] Matt: jchittoda: gato will know for sure, but if that's a part of pubsub than 

we likely support it 


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[12:27 PM] jchittoda: this is not supported by XEP-0060 

[12:27 PM] Matt: ok, i'm virtually certain we don't support it at the moment in that case 

[12:27 PM] clp207: jvm - 1.6.0, Win XP SP2, and i'm using the oracle lite driver found 

in olite40.jar for 9i lite, I believe it is a type 2 driver, if that means anything to you.... I 

did try using the latest olite driver, but it wouldn't work with 9i lite 

[12:28 PM] stealth111: I guess I could go start blasting around in the database and 

see what damage I could do!! Maybe I would consider this a feature request at this 

point.. A browse button or something to manage groups of new users easier. :) 

[12:28 PM] jchittoda: XEP-0060 only says abt expiration of subscriptions 

[12:28 PM] Francisco2: Guest9 - does spark open the login window? 

[12:28 PM] Matt: stealth111: yes, a good feature request for sure. We definitely need 

user and group browsers and some UI tweaks to make it easier to do bulk 

management 

[12:28 PM] jchittoda: can i create a plug-in for deleting timed-out items ? 

[12:29 PM] stealth111: matt: Thx! 

[12:29 PM] Matt: jchittoda: it might be possible to create a plugin to do that, but it 

might be easier to try to modify the core pubsub code and get your change accepted 

into core 



[12:30 PM] Gato: jchittoda - I don't think we support that feature (99% sure). We 

neither have support for time-based subscriptions 

[12:30 PM] jchittoda: whenever i will upgrade my wildfire then i have to change the 

code again 


[12:30 PM] jchittoda: ok 

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[12:31 PM] Matt: jchittoda: you won't need to keep making the change to the code if 

you submit your new feature and it gets added to core :) 


[12:31 PM] jchittoda: where i can submit this request 

[12:31 PM] jchittoda: ? 

[12:32 PM] Matt: basically, if you write the code and then submit it, we'll review and 

take things from there 

[12:33 PM] jchittoda: sure i will update the code and send it to jive. 




[12:34 PM] Matt: cool. the idea certainly makes sense to me. updates need to expire at 

some point... 

[12:35 PM] jchittoda: Yes item need to be expire in case of persistent nodes. 

[12:35 PM] jchittoda: otherwise it will keep on storing the messages on the database 

[12:36 PM] jchittoda: having another ques : Is it possible to view logs of WiFi 

remotely. 






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[12:42 PM] jchittoda: having another ques : Is it possible to view logs of WiFi 

remotely. 

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[12:43 PM] Gato: jchittoda - the log files you see from the admin console? You can log 

into the admin console from any machine and check the log files 

[12:43 PM] akrherz: hi, any thoughts on this bug: JM-1011 

[12:43 PM] jchittoda: I need them on chainsaw ? 

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[12:44 PM] wroot: stealth111, you can divide users with commas so you dont have to 

press Add for each one !!! :))))) 

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[12:44 PM] wroot: i catually had txt while with all user imports 

[12:45 PM] wroot: for all groups and was updating it constantly 

[12:45 PM] Gato: jchittoda - was that a question? :) Our logs are not generated with 

log4j so not sure if you can use chainsaw to view them 



[12:47 PM] jchittoda: ques : Can i use smack 2.2.1 to connect to wildfire 3.3.0 ? 

[12:47 PM] guus: gotta go. Bye guys! 

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[12:48 PM] Gato: gye Guus 

[12:48 PM] Gato: jchittoda - yes. you should be able to log in 

[12:49 PM] jchittoda: which smack version will support pubsub ? 


[12:49 PM] Gato: jchittoda - I don't think we have a specific release that will include 

pubsub but I would say that it will be a 3.* release 

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[12:50 PM] Gato: jchittoda - the pubsub code has been contributed and we need to 

review it and make it official 


[12:50 PM] chrisw1229: has there been any discussion on when http binding might be 

implemented for Smack? 


[12:50 PM] Jadestorm (dhenninger@jivesoftware.com/Adium) has joined the room 

[12:50 PM] Guest306: hey 

[12:51 PM] Guest306: I have a question 


[12:51 PM] Guest306: can you specify a NIC card for Openfire to use? I have a server 

with 2 nics and I want it to only use one 


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[12:52 PM] jchittoda: actually i want to know that smack 2.2.1 is compatible with the 

wildfire 3.3.0. B'cos our complete code is using smack 2.2.1 and now our client wants 

to upgrade to wildfire 3.3.0 

[12:52 PM] slider: anyone here? 

[12:52 PM] Gato: chrisw1229 - I don't think we have been discussing that. :) For http 

binding we built an AJAX library and on top of that we built Spark web. 

[12:52 PM] nate: Guest306: You can specify which ip(s) it binds to in the config 

[12:52 PM] chrisw1229: thanks gato 

[12:52 PM] Gato: slider - 23 people are here :)

[12:52 PM] akrherz: gato: any thoughts on JM-1011 ? sorry to keep nagging about it 

[12:53 PM] slider: I tried that,, and it still uses the 2nd nic card.. 

[12:53 PM] Gato: checking 





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[12:53 PM] slider: it there any other way? 





[12:55 PM] nate: that should work. You are specifying an IP and not an interface 

correct? 




[12:55 PM] slider: I have two NICs 1st -192.168.1.116 2nd- 192.168.2.116 I want it to 

use the first NIC... but it always uses the second NIC for some reason.... I tried to 

added the 192.168.1.116 in the XML config file but that didnt help 

[12:55 PM] Gato: akrherz - reading thread 

[12:55 PM] slider: it still came up sayiong the server was using the 192.168.2.116 :( 

[12:56 PM] Gato: akrherz - I think that you hit 

http://www.igniterealtime.org/issues/browse/JM-1036 

[12:56 PM] guest254: Hi, just in case somebody is interested: This Groupchat is NOT 

working on my osx mac with Safari but works like a champ in my CAMINO browser! Is 

this a known fact/bug? 

[12:56 PM] Gato: in fact, it is http://www.igniterealtime.org/issues/browse/JM-1037 

[12:56 PM] slider: is there a xmpp.server config that I can use? 

[12:56 PM] Gato: akrherz - are you using upper case letters in the nicknames? That 

was the reason for JM-1037 and JM-1036 

[12:57 PM] slider: gato can u help? 

[12:57 PM] akrherz: gato: its just meebo accounts 

[12:57 PM] Gato: akrherz - may be meebo is using upper case letters in the nickname 

? 

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[12:57 PM] akrherz: gato: I'll check into that 

[12:57 PM] Gato: slider - do you want to bind the server to only one interface (IP 

address)?

[12:58 PM] slider: yes 

[12:58 PM] Gato: slider - edit conf/openfire.xml and set the network.interface property 


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[12:58 PM] slider: I did that.. still dint work 

[12:58 PM] chrisw1229: matt - did you ever get a chance to read my thread: 

http://www.igniterealtime.org/forum/thread.jspa?threadID=25683 

[12:58 PM] Gato: slider - uncomment that property, set the value and then restart the 

server 

[12:59 PM] slider: I took out the 


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[12:59 PM] slider: I did that also... haha it still grabs the other NIC 

[12:59 PM] akrherz: gato: yes, the "m" is capitolized in Meebo 

[1:00 PM] Matt: chris: reading 

[1:00 PM] starry99: Repost: Hi, just in case somebody is interested: This Groupchat is 

NOT working on my osx mac with Safari but works like a champ in my CAMINO 

browser! Is this a known fact/bug? 

[1:00 PM] slider: it there another way to set the network interface? 

[1:00 PM] Matt: chris: looks like you are totally right about the bug report. I'm filing an 

issue 

[1:01 PM] chrisw1229: thank you matt 

[1:01 PM] Guest387: question -- what's the possibility of having multiple windows for 

chat, instead of tabs 

[1:02 PM] starry99_safari: hmm, so many users, so less to read, is this baby working 

on my osx? 

[1:02 PM] stealth111: Later all! 

[1:02 PM] starry99_safari: Ah, I have to press Apple-Enter to send from Safari, 

interesting... 

[1:03 PM] Gato: akrherz - ok. So that is the reason and the problem has been fixed for 

3.3.1. As a workaround see if you can change the default nickname when using meebo 

[1:03 PM] Gato: akrherz - closing jira issue and linking it to JM-1037

[1:03 PM] jchittoda: matt - actually i want to know that smack 2.2.1 is compatible with 

the wildfire 3.3.0. B'cos our complete code is using smack 2.2.1 and now our client 

wants to upgrade to wildfire 3.3.0 

[1:04 PM] slider: gato - is there another way to set the network interface? 

[1:04 PM] akrherz: gato: thanks so much! 

[1:05 PM] Gato: akrherz - no problem. glad to be of help :) 

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[1:05 PM] Gato: slider - nope. and it should work. :) 

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[1:05 PM] withayanda: jadestorm: thanks for getting to the bottom of the spark 

broadcasting issue. i never hovered over the icon long enough to read the tooltip. i 

had just assumed by the looks of the icon that it was using the broadcast plugin on 

the server. 

[1:05 PM] Gato: slider - are you sure you uncommented the XML? 

[1:05 PM] slider: humm.... well it doesnt.. mybe a reinstall will fix it. 

[1:06 PM] slider: yes I am sure... 

[1:06 PM] starry99: Update: I do get "xx joined the room" and "xx left the room" but 

non of the conversation into Safari.... 

[1:06 PM] Gato: slider - no need to reinstall. You are probably missing something 

minor 

[1:06 PM] slider: I program a lot and I am sure 

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[1:07 PM] starry99: I do get my own statements into Safari when I send it with Apple- 

Enter! A pure Enter just gives me a new line in the text window .... 

[1:07 PM] slider: if I disable the 2nd nic it works perfectly..... 

[1:07 PM] Gato: slider - feel free to send me the file. I can give it a look. BTW, if the file 

is correct then the server is not using that file but some other openfireHome folder :) 

[1:07 PM] Guest387: slider -- just a shot in the dark what is your nic priority 

[1:08 PM] withayanda: is there a way to archive group chats? 

[1:08 PM] withayanda: (sorry if that's been asked & answered many times before.) 

[1:08 PM] slider: set to auto... I tried setting the metrics but that didnt work either 

[1:08 PM] slider: gato how can I send you the file? 

[1:08 PM] slider: 



[1:08 PM] slider:



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[1:09 PM] slider: How can I tell where it is pulling the file from? 

[1:09 PM] Gato: from the admin console you will see in the main page the "server 

home" property 

[1:10 PM] Gato: send me the file to gaston at jivesoftware dot com 

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[1:10 PM] Gato: ok. time is up for today. Thanks for joining. I need to go back to 

clustering. :) 

[1:10 PM] Gato: see you next week 

[1:11 PM] slider: thanks.. later 

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[1:13 PM] jchittoda: matt - actually i want to know that smack 2.2.1 is compatible with 

the wildfire 3.3.0 or not ? B'cos our complete code is using smack 2.2.1 and now our 

client wants to upgrade to wildfire 3.3.0 


[1:15 PM] Gato: jchittoda - it should be 

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