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will<strong>in</strong>g to do, you know, look at the frequency of some<br />

allele <strong>in</strong> some certa<strong>in</strong> population, they do not need<br />

identifiers, but if they want to come <strong>in</strong> and they want to<br />

f<strong>in</strong>d <strong>in</strong> this, that and this certa<strong>in</strong> polymorphisms they will<br />

probably need identifiers. They would have to go back to<br />

the IRB with a whole new proposal and it would be up to the<br />

new study com<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> to the parent study -- now the parent<br />

study does not lose their identifiers. I mean, these<br />

samples are identifiable because they are for a research<br />

study but the new study com<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> would either obta<strong>in</strong><br />

identifiers or they would be anonymous depend<strong>in</strong>g on what<br />

their proposal is and then how do they proceed.<br />

DR. HOLTZMAN: We need to be very clear on<br />

that. Now if the Fram<strong>in</strong>gham -- at least my understand<strong>in</strong>g<br />

is the Fram<strong>in</strong>gham samples are not anonymized. If I come <strong>in</strong><br />

and say I would like to use those samples, all right, I do<br />

not care about hav<strong>in</strong>g identifiers. Even with respect to my<br />

use those identifiers are stripped.<br />

DR. OLD: With respect to your use.<br />

DR. HOLTZMAN: My use.<br />

DR. OLD: Right.<br />

DR. HOLTZMAN: Okay.<br />

DR. OLD: You would have no --<br />

DR. HOLTZMAN: All right. So <strong>in</strong> your

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