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The answer <strong>in</strong> each case may be we have<br />

encrypted it and we have encrypted it for the reason that<br />

you should not have access and we are not go<strong>in</strong>g to give you<br />

access. That is a possibility. But we all know human<br />

nature and we know that there is at this po<strong>in</strong>t the<br />

potential to say there is a good enough reason to do that.<br />

The situation is different <strong>in</strong> these two<br />

situations on the face of it between the encrypted and the<br />

totally anonymous cannot be l<strong>in</strong>ked, you know, you did not<br />

get anyth<strong>in</strong>g other than the fact you got a sample that<br />

started off with a diagnosis <strong>in</strong> the category that you<br />

wanted to research.<br />

DR. EMANUEL: But, Alex, I would go back -- I<br />

agree with you 100 percent. Facially they are different,<br />

right. One you have the potential if, <strong>in</strong> fact, you kept<br />

that sheet of what number one really means of go<strong>in</strong>g back or<br />

-- I mean, even if you actually ripped up the sheet if you<br />

are <strong>in</strong> a pathology department with enough work you could<br />

actually go back. It is not like you cannot go back just<br />

because you have ripped that sheet up.<br />

So now the question is what k<strong>in</strong>d of<br />

protections, Alex, would you like <strong>in</strong> place, how high do you<br />

th<strong>in</strong>k that risk is and what k<strong>in</strong>d of protections do you<br />

th<strong>in</strong>k should be <strong>in</strong> place before you -- to do that study?

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