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that was in our book?
DR. EMANUEL: Yes.
DR. MURRAY: It should be this one.
MR. CAPRON: These pages are not numbered.
DR. EMANUEL: This one. Proposed -- it says
proposed policy just like it says up there. And it has got
-- because there are two things labeled and you will see
that -- one -- what happened is that they have got a row
collapsed.
MR. CAPRON: A row which I should point out is
based on this risk differentiation.
DR. EMANUEL: Yes, of course, that is why we
did it.
MR. CAPRON: Yes, exactly, right.
DR. EMANUEL: But that is exactly the way it
should be. There was an assessment that these risks should
be -- I do not want to speak because I was not there at the
collapsing but as I understand it that the risks, in fact,
were something that ought to be determined by the IRB and
not prejudged but whatever. I mean, someone else could
speak to it more intelligently.
DR. SHAPIRO: I think in community
consultation.
DR. HOLTZMAN: Well, to Alex's point about a