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One of the problems we have is there is a big<br />

long future out there and it is very difficult for mere<br />

mortals, especially some of us who are very distant from<br />

the lab, to imag<strong>in</strong>e everyth<strong>in</strong>g that is out there and, also,<br />

imag<strong>in</strong>e what might come about but we have to do our best.<br />

Aga<strong>in</strong>, I do th<strong>in</strong>k that -- I mean, I would just<br />

mention that at the end here the idea of collaps<strong>in</strong>g the --<br />

<strong>in</strong> the future the cl<strong>in</strong>ical research and the research<br />

studies, I was the last hold out. Carol was the leader of<br />

that as I recall. You know, this is a work <strong>in</strong> progress.<br />

I do not know what you want. Do you want to go<br />

through the recommendations or do you want to go through<br />

some of the other issues?<br />

DR. MURRAY: I th<strong>in</strong>k the most -- <strong>in</strong> my view but<br />

I would <strong>in</strong>vite the other subcommittee members, <strong>in</strong> my view<br />

the most important th<strong>in</strong>g now is to sort of go through<br />

quickly the recommendations for the various conditions, the<br />

boxes.<br />

How do the rest of you feel?<br />

If we can do that -- that is the most important<br />

th<strong>in</strong>g we can do. I want to also have some time to talk<br />

about the other issues, community consultation and whether<br />

-- under what circumstances you would ever walk back<br />

through this fire wall. I want to do that but I th<strong>in</strong>k we

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