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studies and other samples of the future.<br />

Carol thought you had not and you were still<br />

keep<strong>in</strong>g them separate.<br />

So maybe even the committee is not quite clear<br />

where its matrix goes.<br />

Certa<strong>in</strong>ly <strong>in</strong> look<strong>in</strong>g at the materials that were<br />

distributed <strong>in</strong> advance I understand why Zeke came to that<br />

conclusion because it seemed to me that the 1b and 1c<br />

looked very much like 1e and 1f.<br />

So I understand why that would have happened,<br />

Zeke.<br />

But aga<strong>in</strong> there may <strong>in</strong> the end be there some<br />

difference <strong>in</strong> how we th<strong>in</strong>k about people know<strong>in</strong>gly<br />

encounter<strong>in</strong>g a risk. So I want us to -- when you lead us<br />

through this -- address this question of what different<br />

risks you thought were at issue and why you th<strong>in</strong>k that<br />

treat<strong>in</strong>g different types of study the same way is right and<br />

why these three levels of protection -- the third level by<br />

the way, of course, is <strong>in</strong> the CIOMS documents and so forth.<br />

It is not as though we thought up community consent but it<br />

is there.<br />

There is that recent article that was <strong>in</strong> Nature<br />

Genetics that you have probably seen by Foster, et al.,<br />

which addresses that process.

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