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MR. CAPRON: Well, I will wait until we get to<br />

the po<strong>in</strong>t of look<strong>in</strong>g at what the protections are.<br />

DR. MURRAY: David?<br />

DR. COX: Zeke, I th<strong>in</strong>k that you said that very<br />

nicely and <strong>in</strong> terms of what the motivations for the boxes<br />

were but perhaps the debate can be -- and, <strong>in</strong> fact, it is<br />

perhaps the reason why the other groups had more boxes is<br />

that they did not start with the premise that the only<br />

th<strong>in</strong>gs that were available were those three th<strong>in</strong>gs, those<br />

three types of protections.<br />

Now certa<strong>in</strong>ly <strong>in</strong> practice those are the three<br />

types of protections that are existent today.<br />

The question, I th<strong>in</strong>k, a third question to ask,<br />

is should we start with that premise and say that those are<br />

the three types of protections because there is not<br />

practically an option for other ones right now or should we<br />

say -- should we back up and say because th<strong>in</strong>gs do not fit<br />

<strong>in</strong>to these n<strong>in</strong>e categories very clearly that we should have<br />

other types of protections as an <strong>in</strong>itial start<strong>in</strong>g po<strong>in</strong>t? I<br />

th<strong>in</strong>k that is a very important th<strong>in</strong>g.<br />

Certa<strong>in</strong>ly the subcommittee by sign<strong>in</strong>g on to the<br />

matrix did the former but if other members of the<br />

commission do not start with that assumption then it is

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