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Bernie wanted to say someth<strong>in</strong>g.<br />

DR. LO: I th<strong>in</strong>k one of the problems we are<br />

hav<strong>in</strong>g is that we are try<strong>in</strong>g to have a full debate <strong>in</strong><br />

m<strong>in</strong>iature and I th<strong>in</strong>k all these issues need to be -- all<br />

these issues need to be discussed and I th<strong>in</strong>k I just want<br />

to make two po<strong>in</strong>ts. One, where we end up <strong>in</strong> our matrix may<br />

not be where we want to start. So at conception I th<strong>in</strong>k<br />

most people do come with the <strong>in</strong>tuition that there are many,<br />

many more rows and columns than we may end up with.<br />

I th<strong>in</strong>k as Zeke was suggest<strong>in</strong>g it is only if we<br />

go through the arguments and f<strong>in</strong>d that a lot of the rows<br />

and columns are identical after deliberation. Do we then<br />

say the recommendations will collapse? But maybe as we<br />

present this we should start with the fuller matrix and<br />

argue through why it collapses down and obviously we cannot<br />

do that <strong>in</strong> an hour-and-fifteen m<strong>in</strong>utes.<br />

The other po<strong>in</strong>t is that, Alex, what you were<br />

say<strong>in</strong>g about the importance <strong>in</strong> some situations of be<strong>in</strong>g<br />

able to deencrypt that <strong>in</strong>formation either for the purpose<br />

of report<strong>in</strong>g back to an <strong>in</strong>dividual patient, close but not<br />

there yet, to report back to an <strong>in</strong>dividual patient the<br />

f<strong>in</strong>d<strong>in</strong>gs that may be of cl<strong>in</strong>ical import to that patient.<br />

Or the other situation where that is likely -- that may<br />

come up is where the scientists wants to get back to that

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