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is you have education, you have response to problems, and<br />

the third th<strong>in</strong>g you need, I th<strong>in</strong>k, for a low <strong>in</strong>cidence,<br />

high severity problem, is to have penalties for violation<br />

because I assure you that many, many people are busy. They<br />

have lots to do. And no matter how well mean<strong>in</strong>g they are<br />

and no matter how much they believe <strong>in</strong> theory <strong>in</strong> the<br />

ethical issues if it is demonstrated time and aga<strong>in</strong> that<br />

there is no penalty for a serious violation people have<br />

better ways to spend their time than to fuss with this<br />

nonsense.<br />

So that is the three th<strong>in</strong>gs I say.<br />

This leads to two issues and I have brought my<br />

conclusions. There are resource issues that someone is<br />

go<strong>in</strong>g to have to grapple with because the current structure<br />

does not have enough staff and not enough money, and<br />

probably not enough power to engage <strong>in</strong> either any of the<br />

education response to problems and penalties for violation<br />

that does not exist presently.<br />

And then we have the structural problems and<br />

there are, I th<strong>in</strong>k, disabl<strong>in</strong>g exist<strong>in</strong>g structural problems<br />

that must not be perpetuated as we move forward <strong>in</strong>to do<strong>in</strong>g<br />

better.<br />

The first is the structural conflicts of<br />

<strong>in</strong>terest identified by Dr. Fletcher and Dr. McCarthy.

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