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are the problem. The lack of available resources within
institutions, federal agencies, universities, of persons
with expertise to lead this effort is a problem.
But I do think that it is -- the conflict of
interest and the conflict of missions is a kind of
persistent weakness that demoralizes the whole system. I
have been aware of it all of my adult life from the time
that the solution was invented in the early '70s to have
NIH effectively regulating itself. And if you have that
kind of central conflict of missions and conflict of
interest it is the kind of national commentary on evading
the problem.
So I would say even in an era of smaller
government that leaders in Congress and the American people
are interested in better government, to have smaller and
better, and there is not an enormous new amount of
appropriations to be made in creating a new body and going
about doing this right.
So I would say that the McCarthy plan is a good
one except that it lacks the national advisory committee
feature but it is in the wrong location. The location
still begs the question and if it is put there it will
continue into the next era, the kind of demoralizing effect
that has produced such lack of respect, particularly from