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about not go<strong>in</strong>g back, right?<br />

DR. MURRAY: Well, I th<strong>in</strong>k you are not hear<strong>in</strong>g<br />

what we are try<strong>in</strong>g to say here.<br />

I also want to make a conceptual po<strong>in</strong>t, Alex,<br />

and that is if you talk to privacy experts, particularly<br />

for an issue like tissues, DNA samples, tissues conta<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g<br />

DNA, there is not a bright l<strong>in</strong>e dist<strong>in</strong>ction between those<br />

samples that are wholly anonymous and those samples that<br />

are not. I mean, if I had access to DNA f<strong>in</strong>gerpr<strong>in</strong>t<br />

databases then I might be able to l<strong>in</strong>k this particular<br />

sample even though every piece of otherwise identify<strong>in</strong>g<br />

<strong>in</strong>formation has been stripped from it simply because I can<br />

do a DNA f<strong>in</strong>gerpr<strong>in</strong>t from this tissue.<br />

It is really a matter of how difficult it<br />

becomes to go back from what I have <strong>in</strong> my hands, from<br />

tissue sample with or without additional <strong>in</strong>formation, to a<br />

specific <strong>in</strong>dividual's identity. It is a cont<strong>in</strong>uum rather<br />

than a clear and bright l<strong>in</strong>e. I th<strong>in</strong>k that helps -- that<br />

helps me, at least, to th<strong>in</strong>k of it <strong>in</strong> that way.<br />

So the question becomes what protections can we<br />

put <strong>in</strong> place that would reasonably assure that a person<br />

whose sample with or without other <strong>in</strong>formation has gone<br />

forward to a researcher and can count on that not be<strong>in</strong>g<br />

then subsequently identified.

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