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th<strong>in</strong>gs that knowledgeable people who have personal<br />

experience say has not worked. But I ask the question why<br />

hasn't it worked?<br />

So that I can th<strong>in</strong>k of two reasons why it might<br />

not have worked. First, that there is sort of factual<br />

practical th<strong>in</strong>gs that makes it not practical. And another<br />

th<strong>in</strong>g that I th<strong>in</strong>k is more likely why it does not work is<br />

because people do not value the pr<strong>in</strong>ciple on which it was<br />

based to beg<strong>in</strong> with.<br />

Now if people do not value the pr<strong>in</strong>ciple that<br />

it was based to beg<strong>in</strong> with we can have any process that we<br />

want to put together and that will not work either.<br />

So because it strikes me -- aga<strong>in</strong>, be<strong>in</strong>g naive<br />

<strong>in</strong> this area and I say that -- that this should not be so<br />

complicated. All right. So when th<strong>in</strong>gs smell like they<br />

should not be real complicated and are real complicated it<br />

heads me towards the fact that some people do not value it.<br />

So I really very much like the idea of go<strong>in</strong>g<br />

back because there is lots of experience <strong>in</strong> this <strong>in</strong> ask<strong>in</strong>g<br />

why it did not work, okay, and what we have to do to get<br />

fixed to get it to work. And that the -- rather than<br />

mak<strong>in</strong>g another set of recommendations sort of address<strong>in</strong>g<br />

that fact right up front. And then, okay, if it is not<br />

valued by certa<strong>in</strong> people have them come out of the closet

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