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MR. CAPRON: Three --<br />

DR. CHILDRESS: -- an advance directive for<br />

potentially beneficial.<br />

MR. CAPRON: That is right.<br />

DR. CHILDRESS: But it says it under number<br />

four. At least our draft says it.<br />

MR. CAPRON: Oh, I am sorry. I am sorry. I<br />

understand.<br />

DR. SHAPIRO: Can you repeat that?<br />

DR. CHILDRESS: Yes. It should be -- the "and"<br />

should be "or."<br />

MR. CAPRON: The th<strong>in</strong>g that we have been<br />

discuss<strong>in</strong>g is po<strong>in</strong>t number three and you are now switch<strong>in</strong>g<br />

to po<strong>in</strong>t number four.<br />

DR. CHILDRESS: Well, this is just to get this<br />

clarification <strong>in</strong>. Thanks to Harold and Eric for call<strong>in</strong>g it<br />

to my attention.<br />

Bernie?<br />

DR. LO: Yes. Let me also speak as someone who<br />

has tried to work <strong>in</strong> the field of advance directives and<br />

end of life care and it has been disappo<strong>in</strong>t<strong>in</strong>g to say the<br />

least that it has not worked out better. So although I<br />

th<strong>in</strong>k we cannot translate all that experience, there

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