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So it is -- I mean, I th<strong>in</strong>k as we heard from<br />

the people <strong>in</strong> the New York group the idea that people are<br />

actually go<strong>in</strong>g to do this is, I th<strong>in</strong>k, clearly unrealistic.<br />

You just have to understand that if you put this <strong>in</strong>to place<br />

you cannot have any greater hope than five or ten percent<br />

of people are ever go<strong>in</strong>g to do this. I th<strong>in</strong>k we must be<br />

very clear about that.<br />

It is not because only five or ten percent of<br />

people may want to participate <strong>in</strong> research. I mean, if<br />

there is anyth<strong>in</strong>g we know, there is a big gap between<br />

attitude and action here.<br />

DR. CHILDRESS: I have Eric and then Alex.<br />

DR. CASSELL: And then the other issue of it is<br />

then they are not heeded. The evidence shows that then the<br />

people for whom they were written, that is the physicians<br />

<strong>in</strong> care, do not pay attention to them.<br />

Now the conclusion that is usually drawn is<br />

that is because they are bad guys and they do not want to<br />

pay attention. I th<strong>in</strong>k that is not it at all. They do not<br />

know how. They do not know how not to treat. They do not<br />

know how <strong>in</strong> this k<strong>in</strong>d of th<strong>in</strong>g to apply a directive written<br />

way ahead to a piece of research which will not really<br />

precisely the way it was that that directive was written<br />

for so we have this problem.

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