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179 1 I take it that was really the committee's view 2 also. 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 DR. CASSELL: Yes, that is our general feeling. DR. SHAPIRO: But maybe we could start off with the easier part of this and just address what Eric has referred to as the process issues if I can phrase them that way and see and just get a general sense if people would. To take a specific item I would like to meet for longer times but a fewer number of meetings. That really means two days every second month just to take an example rather than one day every month as another example. How do people feel about that? COMMISSIONERS: Yes. DR. SHAPIRO: Let me ask an easier question. Does anybody dissent from that? Okay. We will give that a try. Please make an effort to be helpful to us with your calendars and we will look at this year's schedule because we do not feel -- I do not feel committed to it. We can easily cancel a few meetings this year and make the ones we have longer. We will be back to you. Eric and the staff will be back to you on that issue. DR. MESLIN: If I may, though, it might be useful before we leave that question to consider whether

180 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 you do want to meet next month, which we had tentatively asked you to put on your calendars. A meeting that was scheduled to be in Los Angeles. You have heard from this morning's discussion that there is a strong desire to get a high quality research product out to you, the stored tissue report, and I suspect you will hear a similar sentiment this afternoon and after tomorrow's subcommittee of the Human Subjects Committee on the report on subjects of questionable decision making capacity. You may either want to speak now or think about this and speak fairly soon because we have made some tentative arrangements to meet in L.A. sometime around the 5th or 6th or 6th and 7th of February. It may turn out that it would be easier and make more sense to forego the February meeting and meet in March, which would give us two months to produce the kinds of things that we have been talking about. So I just flag that for you to consider. DR. SHAPIRO: Steve? 20 21 22 23 24 DR. HOLTZMAN: Do we or do we not also have on the schedule a meeting on the 23rd of February? DR. MESLIN: We do not. We had asked you to reserve a couple of dates in February and the date that we

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scheduled to be <strong>in</strong> Los Angeles. You have heard from this<br />

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high quality research product out to you, the stored tissue<br />

report, and I suspect you will hear a similar sentiment<br />

this afternoon and after tomorrow's subcommittee of the<br />

Human Subjects Committee on the report on subjects of<br />

questionable decision mak<strong>in</strong>g capacity.<br />

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this and speak fairly soon because we have made some<br />

tentative arrangements to meet <strong>in</strong> L.A. sometime around the<br />

5th or 6th or 6th and 7th of February. It may turn out<br />

that it would be easier and make more sense to forego the<br />

February meet<strong>in</strong>g and meet <strong>in</strong> March, which would give us two<br />

months to produce the k<strong>in</strong>ds of th<strong>in</strong>gs that we have been<br />

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So I just flag that for you to consider.<br />

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DR. MESLIN: We do not. We had asked you to<br />

reserve a couple of dates <strong>in</strong> February and the date that we

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