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177 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 have more muscle as a commission, until we have been more successful and maybe more callous is a good way to put it, I think we might be careful about stepping in there where there is so much can happen in relationship to the public. That is our report. DR. SHAPIRO: Well, Eric, thank you very much and thank the others who participated in outlining some of these issues for us. I am going to turn to the commission in a moment. We have perhaps 15 minutes to discuss this or give initial reactions. As I have said, we will read new versions of this as we go along and gradually hone in on an agenda. Let me just say a word about the process side. Perhaps the easiest to resolve and perhaps even the least important. First of all, as you pointed out, having the staff we have now it would be perfectly feasible for us to meet as a group generally and to meet for longer times less often. I am very sympathetic. That is a lot easier for everybody. I just wanted to note that in attempting to put together our calendar over the last few years it has been almost impossible to find two days we could get a majority

178 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 of the commission available, any two days, so that I am perfectly willing to try. I think, in fact, it is a good idea. I accept the notion it is a good idea to do that. We will give that a try if others on the commission agree because I do think, myself, it is a very good idea and a better way to go about it. So I accept the recommendation speaking personally. If other members of the commission agree we will just go ahead and try once more encouraging everybody to really make an effort to help us out and give us the two days when that is necessary but I like the idea in general. Regarding -- I will just give you my own personal reaction regarding the nature of the reports. I do not think, myself, and I think that was the tenor of your remarks if I understood them, that there is any need to decide on one versus the other. I think we are going to speak in different ways at different times and different kinds of reports depending on the subjects and perhaps even the different audiences. So I much prefer, myself, to preserve flexibility in that respect and focus on the problem and decide given this problem who should we be speaking to first, in what way and in what format, and so on and so forth.

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of the commission available, any two days, so that I am<br />

perfectly will<strong>in</strong>g to try. I th<strong>in</strong>k, <strong>in</strong> fact, it is a good<br />

idea. I accept the notion it is a good idea to do that.<br />

We will give that a try if others on the commission agree<br />

because I do th<strong>in</strong>k, myself, it is a very good idea and a<br />

better way to go about it. So I accept the recommendation<br />

speak<strong>in</strong>g personally.<br />

If other members of the commission agree we<br />

will just go ahead and try once more encourag<strong>in</strong>g everybody<br />

to really make an effort to help us out and give us the two<br />

days when that is necessary but I like the idea <strong>in</strong> general.<br />

Regard<strong>in</strong>g -- I will just give you my own<br />

personal reaction regard<strong>in</strong>g the nature of the reports. I<br />

do not th<strong>in</strong>k, myself, and I th<strong>in</strong>k that was the tenor of<br />

your remarks if I understood them, that there is any need<br />

to decide on one versus the other. I th<strong>in</strong>k we are go<strong>in</strong>g to<br />

speak <strong>in</strong> different ways at different times and different<br />

k<strong>in</strong>ds of reports depend<strong>in</strong>g on the subjects and perhaps even<br />

the different audiences.<br />

So I much prefer, myself, to preserve<br />

flexibility <strong>in</strong> that respect and focus on the problem and<br />

decide given this problem who should we be speak<strong>in</strong>g to<br />

first, <strong>in</strong> what way and <strong>in</strong> what format, and so on and so<br />

forth.

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