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165 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 to you at least what the initial considerations were of the members of the small group which he met with. I think you had a telephone conference if I recall. FUTURE COMMISSION RESEARCH ACTIVITIES DR. CASSELL: Yes. We have to use the microphone Chanteuse-style. Your committee for this was Alex and myself, and Alta Charo, and David Cox, and Eric Meslin, and Henrietta Hyatt-Knorr, and so it is Eric M. and Eric C. now on e-mail so that we distinguish each other. We divided our concerns into two. One was -- one had to do with commission process and the other with actual program suggestions that we thought might be useful. The first part of it was we thought there was considerable sentiment for not breaking up into two large groups and meeting separately again. We are by my own experience and other people's reports a very congenial commission and we get a lot of work done around the table and we have a lot of different talents, and we thought we really would do better if we could try and stay together. There are some days maybe that is not possible but in general we thought that might be a helpful matter. In addition to that there was also sentiment for having longer meetings less frequently. We have a
166 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 meeting monthly and we are hardly finished with one meeting and then we are already into the next and we are really not quite ready, we thought, so we hoped we could prevail on our chair to consider possibly changing our schedule somewhat. We thought we would be more productive if we did that. These are all matters for discussion. But there is another aspect of the same thing and that is we are -- when we did the cloning report we were -- we did not have the amount of staff that is usual for a commission and so here we are we were all commenting on drafts that had not yet become drafts and they went back and forth, and in and out, and then -- a very unusual way of writing a report. It has to be one of the most unusual way in writing a report that I have ever seen. Whereas, we now have excellent staff and staff in-depth and we thought that this would also allow for a much better use of staff, all of whom are really expert now, to circulate drafts, to make proposals, to do the research so that we have something in hand and we are working on that before we get to a meeting and even as was just suggested a lunch so that we are at several levels. We are hearing one thing that is maybe ready for a couple of meetings down the line and another thing and so forth. And that is something that we are able to do now because of
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meet<strong>in</strong>g monthly and we are hardly f<strong>in</strong>ished with one meet<strong>in</strong>g<br />
and then we are already <strong>in</strong>to the next and we are really not<br />
quite ready, we thought, so we hoped we could prevail on<br />
our chair to consider possibly chang<strong>in</strong>g our schedule<br />
somewhat. We thought we would be more productive if we did<br />
that. These are all matters for discussion.<br />
But there is another aspect of the same th<strong>in</strong>g<br />
and that is we are -- when we did the clon<strong>in</strong>g report we<br />
were -- we did not have the amount of staff that is usual<br />
for a commission and so here we are we were all comment<strong>in</strong>g<br />
on drafts that had not yet become drafts and they went back<br />
and forth, and <strong>in</strong> and out, and then -- a very unusual way<br />
of writ<strong>in</strong>g a report. It has to be one of the most unusual<br />
way <strong>in</strong> writ<strong>in</strong>g a report that I have ever seen.<br />
Whereas, we now have excellent staff and staff<br />
<strong>in</strong>-depth and we thought that this would also allow for a<br />
much better use of staff, all of whom are really expert<br />
now, to circulate drafts, to make proposals, to do the<br />
research so that we have someth<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> hand and we are<br />
work<strong>in</strong>g on that before we get to a meet<strong>in</strong>g and even as was<br />
just suggested a lunch so that we are at several levels.<br />
We are hear<strong>in</strong>g one th<strong>in</strong>g that is maybe ready for a couple<br />
of meet<strong>in</strong>gs down the l<strong>in</strong>e and another th<strong>in</strong>g and so forth.<br />
And that is someth<strong>in</strong>g that we are able to do now because of