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which Pat has participated in but also in our mini-hearings
where we found -- I thought quite surprising -- support of
doing scientific research and a concern about having the
information if it were ever linked back to the person come
back and hurt them and that, you know, the insurance
companies are the villains of the piece by and large. That
is what people mentioned spontaneously. But generally a
sense that it is very much in keeping with Pat's conception
and Courtney's notion of this as a contribution.
You should use it. If it is there and it might
help people, by God, you should use it and that was key.
So put all those together and I think it certainly
influences my conclusions about how to treat those samples
which we already have.
DR. DUMAS: They have to have principles.
DR. MURRAY: Pardon?
DR. DUMAS: Not you should use them but not
without principles and some protections.
DR. MURRAY: Right. And now that we have been
alerted to the significance, the potential significance of
the tissue, we should not just -- we should not find past
practices acceptable for the future.
DR. DUMAS: Right.
DR. MURRAY: And we should have a much more --