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for each -- for the particular use of the tissue envisioned<br />

is very powerful.<br />

So I th<strong>in</strong>k there is not a distanc<strong>in</strong>g -- we are<br />

look<strong>in</strong>g at the -- we are look<strong>in</strong>g at cases <strong>in</strong> which the<br />

researcher for a variety of reasons may not need that k<strong>in</strong>d<br />

of close contact and may want to use either large amounts<br />

of tissue or tissue that is with relatively small amounts<br />

of additional <strong>in</strong>formation. So there are other ways of<br />

do<strong>in</strong>g it. There need be no necessary l<strong>in</strong>k between this<br />

proposal and a further distanc<strong>in</strong>g between researchers and<br />

subjects <strong>in</strong> those k<strong>in</strong>ds of cases where distanc<strong>in</strong>g would be<br />

<strong>in</strong>appropriate.<br />

DR. COX: Just one quick follow-up po<strong>in</strong>t. I<br />

quite agree with that except I am bas<strong>in</strong>g my comments<br />

particularly with my experience as a geneticist because<br />

genetics research -- <strong>in</strong> fact, we are the Genetics<br />

Subcommittee -- I am not say<strong>in</strong>g that genetics, you know, is<br />

<strong>in</strong>herently different from other types of medical<br />

<strong>in</strong>formation but genetics is only as good as the def<strong>in</strong>ition<br />

of the phenotype hooked up with the genotype.<br />

So, I th<strong>in</strong>k, at one sort of fairly extreme end<br />

of researchers that need to have close relationship with<br />

the phenotype I th<strong>in</strong>k the geneticists are very much on that<br />

one end. So that is sort of why I am mak<strong>in</strong>g my comments.

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