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work. Do I understand your group to be saying that if a
pathologist and a clinician, a surgeon of some type,
decides to collect a sample for use in some way they want
that neither of them has any privileged status in the use
of that material but even if they want to use it for their
own project that they have to go through the same thing the
third party would have to go through or have I
misunderstood that rather small part of this issue?
MS. BARR: I think you misunderstood.
DR. SHAPIRO: Okay.
MS. BARR: If I, as a surgeon, go to a
pathologist and say, "I have a protocol to do this
particular research and it is within an institution and we
have gone through the IRB and they have approved it and we
are going to consent every individual before we do the
research specifically to that research."
DR. SHAPIRO: Then they are fine.
MS. BARR: They are fine. But if I, as a
pathologist, have a collection of the last 15 years of
patients who had been through my hospital and I am dishing
this out, no, you cannot do that anymore.
DR. SHAPIRO: Yes. Thank you.
DR. MURRAY: I actually have myself on the list
mainly to praise you and the work of your group, Pat. I