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DR. CHILDRESS: Sorry, I was not up --<br />

DR. EMANUEL: No, no, this is confus<strong>in</strong>g. Part<br />

of the reason is I was try<strong>in</strong>g to get -- or had e-mailed to<br />

Henrietta a lot of the permutations that we had gone<br />

through and debated and discussed so people have a better<br />

sense.<br />

So if you look here at what we have -- and I<br />

may not be completely accurate -- migrated to is a general<br />

consent and not presumed consent with an opt out.<br />

If you would like me to defend the idea of a<br />

presumed consent with an opt out I would offer you --<br />

DR. CHILDRESS: No, I was not <strong>in</strong>terested <strong>in</strong><br />

defend<strong>in</strong>g it but rather challeng<strong>in</strong>g it.<br />

DR. EMANUEL: Right. No, I actually th<strong>in</strong>k it<br />

is a reasonable position but --<br />

DR. MURRAY: But we are not adopt<strong>in</strong>g it.<br />

DR. EMANUEL: But I am a m<strong>in</strong>ority and am<br />

will<strong>in</strong>g to give <strong>in</strong>.<br />

DR. CHILDRESS: That takes care of it. I am<br />

sorry. I was on the wrong iteration of this.<br />

DR. MURRAY: Harold?<br />

DR. SHAPIRO: I have what I th<strong>in</strong>k is a very<br />

small question, small aspect of what you are do<strong>in</strong>g, but you<br />

have focused on cl<strong>in</strong>ical samples as I understand it <strong>in</strong> your

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