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opt out was someth<strong>in</strong>g that had been suggested to us by<br />

Bartha Knopfers and I believe, and I do not want to -- if I<br />

mangled her name -- I believe I do not want to speak for<br />

the full subcommittee but we actually stepped back from<br />

that at our last meet<strong>in</strong>g to a general consent. Okay.<br />

I know it is on that --<br />

DR. CHILDRESS: At least it still appears on<br />

the materials handed out today on --<br />

DR. EMANUEL: That is because what I have<br />

<strong>in</strong>cluded for you is a comprehensive -- not comprehensive,<br />

but a thorough list of a k<strong>in</strong>d of history rather than the<br />

absolute latest. And let me -- <strong>in</strong> part because it is <strong>in</strong><br />

flux. You know, let's just be frank about it. This is <strong>in</strong><br />

flux. The recommendations are not written <strong>in</strong> stone and<br />

different people have different views of where they want to<br />

be. But if you look at the second to last page.<br />

DR. CHILDRESS: And that is the one where you<br />

said there was an error that needed to be corrected, is<br />

that right? Because I still have presumed with opt out.<br />

DR. EMANUEL: What I have here is alternative<br />

proposed policy. This sheet. The back of it says "key<br />

dist<strong>in</strong>ctions."<br />

DR. CHILDRESS: Okay.<br />

DR. EMANUEL: Second to last page.

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