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all morn<strong>in</strong>g because we also, I thought, agreed that<br />

ownership was a bad way of look<strong>in</strong>g at it and at least <strong>in</strong><br />

our m<strong>in</strong>i-hear<strong>in</strong>gs found that most people did not have a<br />

sense of ownership. That is not to say no one does but to<br />

say by and large it is actually not the view that seems to<br />

be dom<strong>in</strong>ant.<br />

There has been spirited discussion and some<br />

disagreement about not go<strong>in</strong>g back. Some of us believ<strong>in</strong>g<br />

not go<strong>in</strong>g back is the right policy. Others worry<strong>in</strong>g about<br />

occasional exceptions.<br />

The one th<strong>in</strong>g I would like to raise, and I<br />

th<strong>in</strong>k this follows up on Bernie's comments, is it is not<br />

just a problem of <strong>in</strong>formatics here, this layered consent.<br />

One of the advantages, I th<strong>in</strong>k, the Breast Cancer Coalition<br />

had, the same way that Heart, Lung and Blood Institute had,<br />

is they are deal<strong>in</strong>g with specific diseases go<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>.<br />

The problem of writ<strong>in</strong>g a general consent not<br />

for a specific disease is much more difficult I will submit<br />

to you hav<strong>in</strong>g tried it and I have encouraged all my fellow<br />

commissioners to try it because it is not so easy if you<br />

are go<strong>in</strong>g to take out -- if I go <strong>in</strong> for a breast biopsy,<br />

first of all what happens if it comes out benign is the<br />

disease that is similar cancer or is it benign breast<br />

diseases. You are already mak<strong>in</strong>g certa<strong>in</strong> assumptions.

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