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is coming along and wants a bunch of samples to study liver
disease you cannot give it to them for that reason."
DR. OLD: Not exactly. The way this --
MR. CAPRON: This policy is --
DR. OLD: -- policy is set up is that if you
want to do that you need a whole new study. You need to go
to your IRB. You cannot use an anonymous -- unless the --
you know, unless that is part of the IRB but you need to go
to an IRB with a new proposal to study those stored samples
to do studies that are not broadly related to the reason
they consented to in the first --
DR. HOLTZMAN: But you do not have consent.
MR. CAPRON: Now you have confused me.
DR. HOLTZMAN: Yes.
DR. OLD: Well, you do need --
MR. CAPRON: This says, "No specimen can be
used." It does not say except with IRB approval.
DR. HOLTZMAN: Alex? Alex?
MR. CAPRON: So I am trying to -- I am not
trying to argue with you but in -- what is that? Should we
read that an IRB may give permission for an unrelated study
to be done?
DR. HOLTZMAN: The focus on the parentheses in
the first conjunct, in the first disjunct, right, you have