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recommended so far here because as I read this unless the
research -- the present research is broadly related to the
goals of the original study, that is to say the original
basis for collecting the tissue, it cannot be permitted
even with anonymous data.
Is that a correct reading?
DR. MURRAY: Yes.
MR. CAPRON: It does not say go to the IRB. It
just says, "No specimen."
DR. MURRAY: I think that is a correct reading.
DR. OLD: I --
MR. CAPRON: And that is a very, very sharp
difference because although David Cox is a member of both
groups, in this group as of now the subcommittee is not
taking the view that Rhetaugh had raised before, which is
every effort should be made to contact someone if you are
using a specimen that they have not said you could use the
way you are going to use it but has rather said the stuff
is all there and as long as it is anonymous you do not need
any IRB review, you do not need any consent, you do not
need any community consultation, you can use it, and then a
lot now turns on the last 15 minutes of conversation about
what anonymous means but that -- and this says, "If you
collected this to study pulmonary dysfunction and someone